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Old 09-04-2008
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Re: What change will Palin and McCain deliver?

Fascinating that nobody has been able to come up with the "reform" that a McCain presidency would bring.

This isn't a thread about Obama. This is a thread about McCain. Now, does anyone have anything worthwhile to add? There's a whole other section for bashing Obama.
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Re: What change will Palin and McCain deliver?

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McCain will change our war in Iraq to a war in Iran

McCain will change your kids plans in life from college and success to an early grave overseas after he drafts him

McCain will change your vacation plans from someplace nice to home and dog food so you can afford heating oil after he blows up Iran's oil fields to stop them from developing an atom bomb they don't have.

McCain will change the occupant of your present nice home from you to one of his banker friends who swindled you out of your mortage and then have Phil Gramm arrest you for 'whining' about living in your car.

McCain and the Republicans will change the US from a free Republic to a corrupt kleptocracy, oh wait, that's already happened. He'll continue the Bush legacy there, as in just about everything else.
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Old 09-05-2008
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Re: What change will Palin and McCain deliver?

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Obviously, more than just WORDS given in elaborate, teleprompter speeches.

These two, McCain & Palin have actually ACCOMPLISHED change.
Cool. Tell us about it, you know, using details.
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Re: What change will Palin and McCain deliver?

Still nothing. Go figure.
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Old 09-05-2008
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Still nothing. Go figure.
Yeah, its going to be interesting to see if the right can hijack the talking points of the left and sell it to the people. but this poster has little faith in the american people. Too delusional, too selfish, too prone to swallow simplified mythology and call it a world view.
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Old 09-05-2008
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Re: What change will Palin and McCain deliver?

Well one thing for certain. ]McCain & Palin have changed things. They don't run on the word "change" alone.

McCain has angered many in the Republican party over the last several years, by going against the flow. He has worked on bills with Hillary Clinton, & several others on the other side of the isle. Hillary Clinton likes McCain, when she not campaigning against him.

A good example of this is: Barack Obama voted for President Bush's energy policy giving billions of dollars & tax breaks to big oil. John McCain voted against it.

In fact, prior to Joe Biden becoming Obama's V.P pick, Biden stated that McCain would make a great President.

McCain is respected by both democrats & republicans--he is the confirmed Maverick. He has a record of working with democrats & often against republican wishes. Sarah Palin--has done it too. Pointing out corruption with "republican" politicians in her state, usurping them, collecting money back from the corruption & giving it back to the tax-payers.

The accomplishments of John McCain & Sarah Palin are on record. McCain & Palin will shake up Washington, there is no doubt. McCain said last night he doesn't care which party gets the credit, he wants Washington to start working for the people, not themselves or their party.

My opinion--I'll take the record of change-- over the simple campaign rhetoric word of change anyday.

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Re: What change will Palin and McCain deliver?

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Yup, they sure have. $20 million dollars of debt in a town of 7,000 while the other supported the status quo these last 8 years in Washington while they doubled the deficit.

They're not going to change SHIT!

Which is why they haven't actually laid out one single proposal yet this entire convention other than hate-speeches.

A fucking tourist gives a speech about how the evils of the world are all Obama's and the Democrats fault while belittling working people like my folks who spend their retirement as "community organizers" and we're supposed to be inspired by that!


you do realize that idiotic posts like this destroy the myth you put up about your independent status dont you ?
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Re: What change will Palin and McCain deliver?

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Well one thing for certain. McCain & Palin have CHANGED things. They don't run on the word "change" alone.

McCain has angered many in the Republican party over the last several years, by going against the flow. He has worked on bills with Hillary Clinton, & several others on the other side of the isle. In fact, Joe Biden stated, that he thought McCain would make a great President, & he mentioned he would like to be his V.P. pick.

McCain is RESPECTED by both republicans & democrats. He has a RECORD of working with democrats & often against republican wishes. Sarah Palin--has done it too. Pointing out corruption with "republican" politicians in her state, usurping them, collecting money back from the corruption & giving it back to the tax-payers.

The accomplishments of the John McCain & Sarah Palin are on record. I'll take the record--over the word "change" anyday.

Thank you for putting things in the proper perspective.

The opposition has changed nothing. Ever.
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Re: What change will Palin and McCain deliver?

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Research is a bitch.







Also, when you said "(Barack Obama) voted to cut off funding," you did realize that virtually every member of the U.S. Congress has voted to cut funding for the troops in one way or another, didn't you? It would be really irresponsible for you to suggest that Barack Obama was some kind of fund-cutter without saying the same thing about John McCain.

Here is another bill you can look up.

Barack Obama voted for President Bush's energy policy giving billions of subsidies & tax breaks to big oil, while John McCain voted against it.

Your right--Barack Obama voted to cut off funding for American troops while they were fighting in Iraq.
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Re: What change will Palin and McCain deliver?

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Well, here is some more research for you to do.

Barack Obama voted for President Bush's energy policy giving billions of subsidies & tax breaks to big oil, while John McCain voted against it.

Your right--Barack Obama voted to cut off funding for American troops while they were fighting in Iraq.

If the mushy middle is required to face BHO's record, he cannot win. That is the challenge for the GOP.
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My opinion--I'll take the record of change-- over the simple campaign rhetoric word of change anyday.
if they are so accomplished then why are they hijacking the theme of their opponents?

Talk about a cynical game player. McCain thinks he can start preaching change and reform and fixing washington months after obama was and no one is going to notice? Everytime McCain says the word 'change,' he is defrauding himself.
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If the mushy middle is required to face BHO's record, he cannot win. That is the challenge for the GOP.

DITTO--We have seen advertisements from the Obama campaign attacking President Bush tax breaks for oil companies, but the Obama campaign purposefully neglects to say the Barack Obama voted for it, ha.ha. They also don't know that McCain voted against it.

I don't think many Americans know this. I think the GOP is addressing this with the new Sarah Palin advertisement about her fighting big oil & Barack Obama voting for big oil tax breaks. Maybe this will finally resinate into the American public.
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Well one thing for certain. ]McCain & Palin have changed things. They don't run on the word "change" alone.

McCain has angered many in the Republican party over the last several years, by going against the flow. He has worked on bills with Hillary Clinton, & several others on the other side of the isle. Hillary Clinton likes McCain, when she not campaigning against him.
Wow!! Hillary Clinton likes him!!!!
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A good example of this is: Barack Obama voted for President Bush's energy policy giving billions of dollars & tax breaks to big oil. John McCain voted against it.
So what changed here?
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In fact, prior to Joe Biden becoming Obama's V.P pick, Biden stated that McCain would make a great President.
At the DNC, Biden said McCain would not make a good president.
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McCain is respected by both democrats & republicans--he is the confirmed Maverick. He has a record of working with democrats & often against republican wishes. Sarah Palin--has done it too. Pointing out corruption with "republican" politicians in her state, usurping them, collecting money back from the corruption & giving it back to the tax-payers.
So Palin is a wealth re-distributor?
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The accomplishments of John McCain & Sarah Palin are on record. McCain & Palin will shake up Washington, there is no doubt. McCain said last night he doesn't care which party gets the credit, he wants Washington to start working for the people, not themselves or their party.
Wow, he said that??? MAN!!!! So when Obama talks, it is hype and lies, but when McCain talks, we take it to the bank??

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My opinion--I'll take the record of change-- over the simple campaign rhetoric word of change anyday.
So the record of change is this:

WE can find one instance where he voted against Bush, he has 'worked with the other party' (a cliche that any politician can say about himself), and Sarah Palin said no to a bridge.

oh, and McCain took Obama's mssion of making washington work for people and spun it for his own show. thank you oreo, i am now impressed with the messiah of john mccain.

and last but not least, Hillary Clinton, the mother of change, likes him!!!!!!!!!!!

i might acutally vote for him!
WOW. I am going to go ahead and buy a house, because I know that father McCain is going to deliver the 'change' i need.
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Re: What change will Palin and McCain deliver?

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DITTO--We have seen advertisements from the Obama campaign attacking President Bush tax breaks for oil companies, but the Obama campaign purposefully neglects to say the Barack Obama voted for it, ha.ha. They also don't know that McCain voted against it.

I don't think many Americans know this. I think the GOP is addressing this with the new Sarah Palin advertisement about her fighting big oil & Barack Obama voting for big oil tax breaks. Maybe this will finally resinate into the American public.


Not to mention the subsidies he always voted for for corn growers for ethanol. That ethanol that has but a sever hurtin on the poor who rely on corn based products so much and whose cost has skyrocketed and who have been lobbying BHO constantly.

BHO is owned by big corn. Thanks in part to the senator, corn is selling well over what it did when it just went to food for people and critters.
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Re: What change will Palin and McCain deliver?

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if they are so accomplished then why are they hijacking the theme of their opponents?

Talk about a cynical game player. McCain thinks he can start preaching change and reform and fixing washington months after obama was and no one is going to notice? Everytime McCain says the word 'change,' he is defrauding himself.

Quite the contrary. McCain and Palin have effected change, Obama has not.
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