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Re: What change will Palin and McCain deliver?
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You are just legitimizing barack obama even more by saying stuff like the garbage above. Let me guess, you know of a few bills and a few votes from McCain that just outright prove him as the true 'agent of change' and barack obama as the imitating fraud? LOL
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Re: What change will Palin and McCain deliver?
McCain is simply using earmarks as a talking point. He has not said how he is going to get rid of them, as this would require specific legislation.
And say these earmarks disappear, does it really change anyone's life? Care to tell us what percentage of spending in washington constitute 'earmarks?'
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He very plainly said he would veto anything with earmarks. It impacts those parasites who live off them and our grandchildren who are being asked to pay for flower gardens and the like. Anything greater than zero would be welcome after hearing for years that a reduction in growth represents cuts. And its far more definite than the 'line by line" rhetoric Obama offered and cannot possible deliver on.
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they have been a part of washington for centuries and McCain is simply going to end all of that with his veto? Seems like you are putting a lot of faith in mccain and completely misunderstanding how congressman are able to get earmark spending so effectively.
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No but I guess very few as most bills are nonsense ones honoring a state basketball teams and the like. Qty is not significant, $$$ is.
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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing. Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead "Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others." Ayn Rand |
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You chose earmarks as the battle ground here. You know nothing about how they work. OWNED
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how very silly of you ! what was asked for was an example which I provided. I understand that earmarks are attached to appropriations, as does John McCain, and he said in no uncertain terms that he would veto them. Does he understand that that they are encoded so as to make them controversial to veto ? Yes. Does he care ? Apparently not. And if the threat is present and executed then Congress will have to adjust accordingly or risk awakening "we the people".
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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing. Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead "Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others." Ayn Rand |
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yes, that was very significant as they've been able to hide behind a code of annonimity.
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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing. Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead "Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others." Ayn Rand |
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Re: What change will Palin and McCain deliver?
You guys honestly believe McCain is going to change the way legislation has been passed since the foundation of the republic? Wishful thinking to say the least. It's all fine and dandy to say you're going to veto every bill with earmarks, but that means you're pretty much going to veto every apropriations bill. Which means, no money for our troops in Iraq, no money for highways, a general shutdown of government (imagine the spin!). I realize that to a hardcore conservative this sounds like the ideal state, but in the real, real world it's obvious to most this will never happen.
McCain or Obama might be able to get that legislation passed where earmarks will at least have the name of the senator attached. That's semirealistic to believe in. That's not a partisan issue though. Passing that bill has supporters and detractors on both sides of the isle. You're fighting against legislative politics in general there guys. It's actually kind of comical how many are buying this la la land fantasy regardless though. But seriously, take a step back and think about what you're really putting your faith in. Last edited by phungus; 09-05-2008 at 11:27 PM. |
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yeah, i am sure congress just fears the instant awakening of the american sheep.
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Re: What change will Palin and McCain deliver?
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The title is as clear as it can be and yet only one honest answer was offered: Earmarks. Combatting Earmarks is admirable, and it is reflected to some degree in McCain's record. On the flipside, McCain has openly stated that his method of combatting earmarks is to VETO, VETO, VETO!!! This strikes me as an incredibly obtuse and destructive way to deal with the issue. We have political gridlock in Washington now. To announce that you're going to veto every bill that has State infrastructure spending, etc... on it, only exacerbates what America already hates about Washington. McCain hasn't offered a constructive solution for earmarks... he's announced that he's engage in a tit for tat pissing-match with them.
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