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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

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Excuse me? A magazine interview is hardly a live press conference. And she didn't misspeak. She clearly doesn't understand what the hell Fannie & Freddie are. Why would you partisanly defend this woman who is clearly just a bag of corruption and contradiction. EVERYthing she says is repeatedly proven innacurate/false by the media.
Hey, just cause she brags about peeing in the woods and likes to shoot stuff doesn't mean she is a bag of corrupt and contradiction!
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

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Excuse me? A magazine interview is hardly a live press conference. And she didn't misspeak. She clearly doesn't understand what the hell Fannie & Freddie are. Why would you partisanly defend this woman who is clearly just a bag of corruption and contradiction. EVERYthing she says is repeatedly proven innacurate/false by the media.
Biden has been on the ticket for three weeks now. Has he had a press conference? Of course, frothy partisans are never pleased, so let the rationalization begin.
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Biden has been on the ticket for three weeks now. Has he had a press conference? Of course, frothy partisans are never pleased, so let the rationalization begin.
Biden has been in the national spotlight before. Palin has not. (sigh)
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

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This woman isn't ready to be our Vice President, let alone our President.
You're right.

We'd be far better off with a President who thinks he's visited 57 of the United States...
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

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Biden has been in the national spotlight before. Palin has not. (sigh)
Hey, just because you are ignorant about Palin, does not mean she has to do more than Biden has done.

The fact that you don't know her is not her fault. She has done interviews in the past. If you don't pay attention, too bad.

(And thanks for meeting my prediction. Partisans are oh, so predictable.)
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

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Excuse me? A magazine interview is hardly a live press conference. And she didn't misspeak. She clearly doesn't understand what the hell Fannie & Freddie are. Why would you partisanly defend this woman who is clearly just a bag of corruption and contradiction. EVERYthing she says is repeatedly proven innacurate/false by the media.
Sigh.

"Everything" she says is a lie?

Not exaggerating just a little bit there, huh?

If you apply this same standard to your chosen candidate (which I know you are incapable of doing, but just play along), then he's clearly not competent to be President because he doesn't know how many states there are.

Both instances are, IMHO, not that significant - but some uber-partisan folks will take either and make it out to be the most earth-shattering thing anyone has ever gotten wrong in the history of the spoken word.

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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

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Sigh.

"Everything" she says is a lie?

Not exaggerating just a little bit there, huh?

If you apply this same standard to your chosen candidate (which I know you are incapable of doing, but just play along), then he's clearly not competent to be President because he doesn't know ho wmany states there are.

Both instances are, IMHO, not that significant - but some uber-partisan folks will take either and make it out to be the most earth-shattering thing anyone has ever gotten wrong in the history of the spoken word.

Matt
great post and so true
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

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But aren't Palin and McCain, according to their self descriptions, supposed to despise this type of big government activity.
They're mavericks.
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

Tim is right in his comments about the issue here and the problem is not the palin comment.


The real problem is the complete mortgage system in the US and this was known for years and this exactly is the topic to blame the US politicians. I have no idea which party is really resposible for not regulating and change the system in the US years and years ago but it´s a huge huge problem and will be very very expansive for the US taxpayer.

The banks outsourced mortgage risks to fannie and Freddie and this secondary mortgage system was mor eor less the reason for the US housing bubble where banks gave very risky loans that fuel the economy and the US housing markets. Where i come from such bubbles would not be possible becuase of different laws and in germany we have nor real secondary mortgage market and the banks have to take the risk and therefore the complete banking risk managment system is different or better we have no official public back up for private banks. You have a huge number of risky mortgages that are absolutly insane according to "normal" risk standarts.

These two companies have mortgages at an amount of 5,5 trillion dollars and i would be very suprised if at the end of the day the taxpayers costs would be lower than 500 billion according to the present sittuation of the market and the amount of money private banks had to write off.


I do not know enough about the different parties position about this topic but according to the overall fiscal and financial US policy under Bush i really hope that the democrats will do a better job an dget a chance otheriwse watch you money guys the taxes wil be very high in the future
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

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Tim is right in his comments about the issue here and the problem is not the palin comment.


The real problem is the complete mortgage system in the US and this was known for years and this exactly is the topic to blame the US politicians. I have no idea which party is really resposible for not regulating and change the system in the US years and years ago but it´s a huge huge problem and will be very very expansive for the US taxpayer.

The banks outsourced mortgage risks to fannie and Freddie and this secondary mortgage system was mor eor less the reason for the US housing bubble where banks gave very risky loans that fuel the economy and the US housing markets. Where i come from such bubbles would not be possible becuase of different laws and in germany we have nor real secondary mortgage market and the banks have to take the risk and therefore the complete banking risk managment system is different or better we have no official public back up for private banks. You have a huge number of risky mortgages that are absolutly insane according to "normal" risk standarts.

These two companies have mortgages at an amount of 5,5 trillion dollars and i would be very suprised if at the end of the day the taxpayers costs would be lower than 500 billion according to the present sittuation of the market and the amount of money private banks had to write off.


I do not know enough about the different parties position about this topic but according to the overall fiscal and financial US policy under Bush i really hope that the democrats will do a better job an dget a chance otheriwse watch you money guys the taxes wil be very high in the future
No, the problem is Sarah Palin being a hockey mom. She may be able to run Wasilla but as I said this wasn't misspeaking. She meant to say exactly what she said. But hey...when your running a campaign not based on issues then I guess it doesn't matter at all.
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

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No, the problem is Sarah Palin being a hockey mom. She may be able to run Wasilla but as I said this wasn't misspeaking. She meant to say exactly what she said. But hey...when your running a campaign not based on issues then I guess it doesn't matter at all.
Funny - in another thread you listed a bunch of campaign issue and compared your candidate to the others (although with lots of partisan spin and at least one outright falsehood).

So which is it - no issues, or your issues list?



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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

Let's not engage in telepathy here. I think Sarah Pallin has plenty of examples of demonstrating her lack of knowledge on things. She actually said she learned about the Iraq war from the news.....creepy to think about considering she could be Prez. But I'll give her the benefit of the doubt on this one until she starts having to ANSWER QUESTIONS. I just don't see how this is acceptable. Obama does hostile interviews regularly, he's been on Fox a couple of times. And John McCain and Palin refuse to go on any unfriendly interviews. Why do conservatives accept this?
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

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Let's not engage in telepathy here. I think Sarah Pallin has plenty of examples of demonstrating her lack of knowledge on things. She actually said she learned about the Iraq war from the news.....creepy to think about considering she could be Prez.
Where would you expect her to learn about it?

Where have you learned about it?

Somehow, I doubt there are many (read: any) intelligence briefings for state governors on the Iraq war being conducted at the Pentagon.

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But I'll give her the benefit of the doubt on this one until she starts having to ANSWER QUESTIONS. I just don't see how this is acceptable. Obama does hostile interviews regularly, he's been on Fox a couple of times. And John McCain and Palin refuse to go on any unfriendly interviews. Why do conservatives accept this?
It's a long time to November, and I have no doubt you'll see interviews with all the candidates.

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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

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Where would you expect her to learn about it?

Where have you learned about it?
There have been a number of serious scholarly books already published on the Iraq War, it'd be nice if she had maybe read one of them. Also Senators get intelligence briefings, they have hearings where they learn from commanders and question them. There is a whole different level of access to knowledge about the war. Palin learns about the war from Fox and CNN that should scare you. Someone running for Prez should know MORE than I do about the Iraq War.
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

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There have been a number of serious scholarly books already published on the Iraq War, it'd be nice if she had maybe read one of them. Also Senators get intelligence briefings, they have hearings where they learn from commanders and question them. There is a whole different level of access to knowledge about the war. Palin learns about the war from Fox and CNN that should scare you. Someone running for Prez should know MORE than I do about the Iraq War.
And as a candidate, she will probably get briefings of some sort.

I agree that there should be a deeper knowledge base than TV news, but since she's not a Senator, the Senate briefings are a bit irrelevant here.

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