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Old 09-08-2008
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Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

Upon recent developments that saw Sallie May and Freddie Mac get taken over by the government, Sara Palin thought she would weigh in on the matter:

Housing Policy Trips Up Palin, By Steve Benen - CBS News

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Speaking before voters in Colorado Springs [yesterday], the Republican vice presidential nominee claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had "gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers."
This is more than a mistake.... there's no two ways to parse this... Sara Palin believed that Fannie and Freddie have been government run this whole time.

No....Sara.... this is a situation where private companies failed and were getting a government bailout as a result.

Fannie and Freddie weren't costing taxpayers a dime directly... but now that we are bailing them out.... taxpayers will largely be footing the bill.

This woman isn't ready to be our Vice President, let alone our President.

We can now see why the McCain campaign is keeping Palin bottled up..... they should also make sure she sticks to the script completely on the campaign trail. Just recite and read.... don't think.
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Old 09-08-2008
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

That's a pretty tough one to spin. Of course I'm sure she'll claim that's she was predicting the future or some sort of nonsense.
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Old 09-08-2008
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

they're sorta private, sorta not. but she should probably know the difference.

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The Federal National Mortgage Association (FNMA) (NYSE: FNM), commonly known as Fannie Mae, is a privately-owned and run government sponsored enterprise (GSE) of the United States. It is a stockholder-owned corporation authorized to make loans and loan guarantees.

It is the leading market-maker in the U.S. secondary mortgage market, which helps to replenish the supply money for mortgages and enables money to be available for housing purchases. As of 2008, Fannie Mae and the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie Mac) own or guarantee about half of the U.S.'s $12 trillion mortgage market. As a result, the corporations were particularly affected by the economic downturn in late 2007 and early 2008. Although they guarantee or own only half of the mortgage market, because the subprime mortgage crisis has caused almost all other lending sources to pull out of the market, they are responsible for more than 80% of new mortgages being made in 2008.


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The government sponsored enterprises (GSEs) are a group of financial services corporations created by the United States Congress. Their function is to enhance the flow of credit to targeted sectors of the economy and to make those segments of the capital market more efficient and transparent. The desired effect of the GSEs is to enhance the availability and reduce the cost of credit to the targeted borrowing sectors: agriculture, home finance and education.[citation needed] Congress created the first GSE in 1916 with the creation of the Farm Credit System; it initiated GSEs in the home finance segment of the economy with the creation of the Federal Home Loan Banks in 1932; and it targeted education when it chartered Sallie Mae in 1972 (although Congress allowed Sallie Mae to relinquish its government sponsorship and become a fully private institution via legislation in 1995). The residential mortgage borrowing segment is by far the largest of the borrowing segments in which the GSEs operate. Together, the three mortgage finance GSEs (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the 12 Federal Home Loan Banks) have several trillion dollars of on-balance sheet assets.[citation needed]
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

Curious to see how the republicans here will spin that one. They will probably say you made it up.
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

So, they're Government created entities and their financial problems are costing the people of the US (sometimes known as taxpayers) a great deal of money - and were before the bailout / take-over.

Looks to me like a silly partisan "gotcha" game over a statement that was poorly phrased, but not far from correct.

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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

But aren't Palin and McCain, according to their self descriptions, supposed to despise this type of big government activity.
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

We, the taxpayers of this country are going to bail-out Freddie Mac & Fannie Mae. I guess Sarah Palin's statement of to expensive is 100% right on!

Lest not forget the gaff--that Barack Obama stated the other day--referring to himself as a "muslim"--instead of "christian".

Politicians speaking a lot are going to make word phrase error's alot. If we're going to talk about these kind of silly gaffe's, instead of real issues, it's no wonder that we have elected a congress that has a 9% approval rating.
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

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So, they're Government created entities and their financial problems are costing the people of the US (sometimes known as taxpayers) a great deal of money - and were before the bailout / take-over.

Looks to me like a silly partisan "gotcha" game over a statement that was poorly phrased, but not far from correct.

Matt
It's an indefensible gaffe....

She cited that the companies had "gotten too expensive to the taxpayers" as the reason for the bailouts.

It wasn't a poorly phrased statement, it was a poorly thought and factually incorrect statement. If people start excusing her lack of understanding it smells intellectually dishonest to me.
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

This smells to me like the Obama 57 states thing.

But, even assuming she's really in the dark, I'd imagine some on the job learning is required. I see no reason to believe that she would have any difficulty bringing herself up to speed on the particulars if she were asked to weigh in on relevant legislation.
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

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But aren't Palin and McCain, according to their self descriptions, supposed to despise this type of big government activity.
Good point and the reasons why you won’t hear McCain or Obama get populist on this is because, they all have dirt to cover up.





As to the OP-

Excsue me, uhm Bush signed a bill, giving our the Treasury the power for a year to extend unlimited credit to or make equity purchases in both funds……in July.

As far as Palins statement, her phrasing was poor, Freddie and Fannie are federally chartered by the government to perform the lending they do. She probably should have said, we need to pop this balloon before it costs us more down the road….

I don’t think it’s a leap at all regards what will happen and in fact has happened as of today ie. the gov. stepping in and creating a conservatiship. This was pre ordained.

We all know that Freddie and Fannie were not going to be allowed to go down, and we all knew that sooner or later they would have to shed all their protections from strict gov. oversight, and we do need to make sure this is not going to poct us anymore than it already will, estimates are close to 700 Billion already.
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

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It's an indefensible gaffe....

She cited that the companies had "gotten too expensive to the taxpayers" as the reason for the bailouts.

It wasn't a poorly phrased statement, it was a poorly thought and factually incorrect statement. If people start excusing her lack of understanding it smells intellectually dishonest to me.
okay well, I 'll have to put this into the file, so when someone inevitably makes a remark about obamas “Freudian slip” yesterday, we'll have to parse that too.....come on LBS.
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

With all the news stories that could have been covered today about her, why the media focus on a poorly phrased (at most) statement? Looks like Media bias in action.
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

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okay well, I 'll have to put this into the file, so when someone inevitably makes a remark about obamas “Freudian slip” yesterday, we'll have to parse that too.....come on LBS.
What was his “Freudian slip” from yesterday? I'll judge it on it's own merit.

The issue in this thread is Palin... If you can demonstrate in any way that Palin probably knew better and this was just poor wording, let me know.

She lacks the background on national issues. It's not surprising that she's not well versed on topics that don't deal directly with Alaska. It's probably why the press is being locked out from her. She's doing some intense cramming between now and the VP debates. Hopefully for her, she memorizes the correct answers.



p.s. you're keeping a file on me? Wow, I feel special.
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

Sounds to me like the Reps on here are looking at Palin the same way they say the Dems look at Obama.

We call Obama the hope of change, etc, I guess we can call Palin the great white hope
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Re: Palin Makes Huge Gaffe: Doesn't understand Mortgage Bailout.

No wonder she is in hiding and the media not allowed to speak to her. Just wait til the honeymoon is over folks. And wait for Biden to rip her a new one.
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