I'm not talking about Palin's career. I'm talking about the fact that if people knew about the law it would lead to women realising they were not wealthy enough to report a rape and it would result in a greater number of attacks on poor women.

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so which is it? Are we debating sources or?

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frankly I think we should table the disussion till someone asks...like you know, palin?

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I'm sure keeping things like this under wraps would suit some people just fine,
However I think Palin should be put under the same microscope as the other three have been. We need to know what makes her tick.

There are things about Obama and McCain that I like and don't like. I can not in good faith vote for the GOP ticket until I get some answers about some of the things comming out about Palin.

I am confused, are you inferring I want it "under wraps"...?

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That wasn't pointed at you at all, I know you lean more toward the Rep/Conservative side. But all in all I think you atleast try to see all sides in most cases.


I was referring to some of the Palin supporters on here that think she can do no wrong. After we are talking about politicians

In 2000 the town of Wasilla, Alaska had a population of about 5,500; and, according to the link provided by one of the posters to the FBI statistics for that town, one rape was reported that year. Awful as that rape was for the person who was assaulted, and if it is assumed that everyone in town was horrified / outraged by the crime, it is still safe to assume that it was not the top issue or problem confronted by city leaders that year; probably didn’t make the top ten list. This doesn’t make them insensitive or uncaring, it simply reflects reality. And before anyone jumps up to tell me I’m some sort of knuckle-dragging, no-neck type let me assure you I am indeed those things. I think a convicted rapist in most cases deserves, and should get, the death penalty.

What is instructive to me is that in the original article from 2000 neither Palin, as mayor, nor any of the city council members were interviewed, quoted or even referred to by name. It would seem only the police chief had anything to say that interested the reporter. This would make sense if the mayor and council, like those of most small towns, are part time officials who rely on the “expert” hired to run a department to formulate and submit a budget for their approval. Typically the budgets submitted are not a laundry list of every item required to run a department; i.e. every type of ammunition required to maintain firearms proficiency; many items are often lumped together under major headings like “training” or “operations”. So could it be possible that Palin and the council were unaware of the procedures used in investigating a reported rape? Is it possible that the victim of the rapist saw the cost to be tested as another indignity forced upon her that she didn’t want to talk about? Is it possible that a state legislator and governor of one party saw an opportunity to embarrass a person with a possible future in another party? (Strike that last. They wouldn’t do THAT.)

As to what Palin knew about the policy and when she knew it; we have little, make that zero, information. The original article doesn’t even go there and current reporting, after quoting the original, seems to be little more than gossip and speculation. Then there is the refrain; “She should have done something”. What? Was she a mayor, with a council she had to work with, or a queen who could wave a scepter and change things as she chose? And there was the fact that the state had just finished riding hell bent for leather to get a law on the books as the original article was published. It was a done deal at that point. No further action was required at the local level.

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Well, I think it's not unreasonable to question whether this law was on the books and not known by city officials because it was not standard procedure. Thus, it would not have come up to be debated and thrown out.

Here are some examples of laws in Illinois. Do you think it's a black mark that BHO didn't do something about some of these laws?

No one may stand on the sidewalk on the 500 block of Illinois Ave.

One may not pee in his neighbor’s mouth.

Law forbids eating in a place that is on fire.

It is illegal to give a dog whiskey.

It is forbidden to fish while sitting on a giraffe’s neck.

Dumb Laws in Illinois. Crazy Illinois Laws. We have weird laws, strange laws, and just plain crazy laws!

My point is that there are laws on the books in every town, state in this country that are obsolete and unknown. Is this one of them?

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Translation: "I haven't received my talking points yet. Can we call a time out?"

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Are you suggesting that silly and inane laws somehow parallel obscene and immoral ones like charging women for their rape kits?

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Well, I don't thinks it that so much as visceral reaction to the beating she's taken. The media went nuts, so what should be really parsed and is based on fact got lost in the noise, many people just tuned out. So now when they have a valid point no ones listening.

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if you had actually like you know read my contributions to the thread, you might not have felt the need to make that ignorant knee jerk statement but alas..... well, what can one say?


I'll catch you up though...- the sum of my contributions to this thread-

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so we are left with- what did she know and when did she know it?

How many rapes did indeed occur in wasilla during her tenure and did she in fact sppt. the policy or?

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if this blurb is accurate as in;

Eight years ago, complaints about charging rape victims for medical exams in Wasilla prompted the Alaska Legislature to pass a bill -- signed into law by Knowles -- that banned the practice statewide.


as in complaints BY Wasilla victims complaining, then shes got some explaining to do as this could not have escaped her notice, I find the wording curious, is he saying that Wasilla victims complained or complaints 'regards' a state wide basis?

Forgive me if I am not exactly buying everything Knowles says, he is after all not an unbias source.

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As I said, in the next few days I am sure we'll see more if there’s more to see.

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"The captain has turned off the `No Dubbing' sign. You are free to speak any language you choose."

What I'm suggesting is that the rape kit law in Wasilla, AK may have been an obsolete law that parallels with standing on the sidewalk in the 500 block of Illinois Ave. and you know that's what I'm suggesting. You're trying to make an issue where there might not be one to be made, if this was an obsolete law that no one knew about until the media dug it up this week.

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There is no parallel between the petty laws you listed and the law saying that rape victims had to pay for their attacker to be found.

Alright. One of you show me where a rape victim was actually charged for a rape kit in Wasilla, AK.

I'll try to find where someone in IL was charged for fishing from a giraffes neck.

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