Well, actually, yes, they were elected to be presidential nominees.

With 40 days out, I just don't get why it's a good idea for both of these men to waste a day going back to Washington and twiddling their thumbs, since they both aren't on the specific committee negotiating this thing, and then they're going to meet with Bush. And there won't be anything very insightful happening at that meeting. It's predictable. Bush and McCain want a blank check, and Obama wants more regulations.

McCain went back to wait in the wealthy person's welfare line, but mostly, he wants to avoid the debate if he can because the neo-cons simply do not want to have to face the public and actuallly own these last 8 years.

McCain knows he's in for a drubbing at this debate now.

That any conservative minded person on here would be so fucking glad that McCain wants to drop everything so he can sway Republicans to vote on something that's totally against their principles is fucking laughable.

Is that what it's going to be like if he's President? "I'm calling a T-O!". Gimme a break.

All of McCain's lapses in judgment and overreactions seem the stuff of an inexperienced freshman.

Yup, you don't have to print it anymore. They're just going to move it around and make it up on a computer. They'll probably borrow some from elsewhere, but mostly it's pretend money that represents tax revenue that will be generated in a few years from now.

This "bailout" or "welfare" bill or whatever you want to call it, it's actually going to cause the American dollar to get even weaker than it is now, it's going to keep inflation up, and the housing market is going to be artificially propped up.

The bigger the bailout, the longer the recession is going to be. And it's all to please Wall St. so that we don't wake up at some point in the next couple of weeks and see the Dow drop a thousand or more points in one day. So what's going to happen is the markets are going to stay afloat after hearing of the bailout plan, and then they'll just start to drop gradually over time.

Well is thats the case we can hang it up if Obama is elected. Him raising taxes on the same people who create jobs will only slow down the money coming into the system.

Is this what you mean about creating jobs:
Hanesbrands will close 9 plants, cut 8,100 jobs - Yahoo! News

The moves will eliminate the jobs of about 8,100 workers in the U.S. and Central America, while the company plans to add 2,000 jobs in Asia. Hanes has about 50,000 employees in 25 countries.

LS it must really suck going thru life with such a big chip on you shoulders.

Yeah, all those jobs. All those AMAZING jobs. All -600,000 of them so far this year!

On the subject of suspending the campaign because the going gets tough and McCain can't get goin', why isn't Gov.Palin back out there today on the campaign trail?

Why the chauvinistic attitude by McCain? Is she such a delicate flower that she can't double up on her touring schedule and step in for one single day?

I guess this is what we have to look forward to if McCain wins the Oval Office; on a sick day or when things get rough, he'll just call a t-o and hide out with Palin.

Pretty fucking weak.

And this is the entire depth and breadth of your interest in the election. "Ooh, my team is WINNING!!!!!!! Neato!!!!"

Matt

I want to repeat this so you can understand what I said in my last post; Obama canceled his SNL appearance two weekends ago because of Ike because like the Letterman show, SNL is a comedy show and he felt that doing comedy on nationwide broadcast might give everyone the feeling that he's not concerned about the people in Galveston TX. Nobody made fun of Obama when he did that.

But when McCain does the exact same thing, cancel his appearance on a comedy show during a very serious crisis because it wouldn't look good....all he gets is lies about his character and his motives. It just shows the character of the Democrats and their supporters, that they can't pass up an opportunity to trash someone even when they're doing what's right.

Besides, you're just pissed because Obama passed up on a perfect opportunity to make his critics eat their words. They constantly point out the fact that Obama has never accomplished anything and what does he do when he has an opportunity to do just something? He tells everyone that if he's needed they can call him.

I've got a colleague at work that does that all of the time. He tries to act like he wants to work but when you need him you can't seem to get ahold of him.


Obama has this great opportunity to earn his paycheck and fix America's economy and what does he do? He tells everyone that he'll be there if needed. Just give him a call when you need somebody.

Obama thinks getting elected is more important then fixing the economy.

Truth is he wouldn't be any help anyway because lets face it, Obama doesn't know what needs to be done. He's practically admitting to it with this carelessly partisan response. Do you think Obama would actually do his MF job for once? Fat chance. But Obama is the guy that needs lengthy prep time for debates because it's a lot harder to prepare to lie about your background then it is tell the truth.

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Conversely, when the going gets tough, Obama will shirk the responsibilities of his office for a photo-op.

Great choice we have again this year.

Matt

That's exactly the point.

Obama doesn't care enough to change his schedule or to cancel his plans to take care of more important matters when they come up.

Imagine what he would do in a time of crisis in the White House.

"I don't give a frigg if Iran just launched a nuke at Israel, I've got a fund-raiser to go to!!!"

"You guys handle this, just give me a call if you feel you need help."

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I have my problems with both guys, but McCain going to Washington to play Superman is like when a father lets his 2 yr old help him fix the car. It makes the little guy feel good about himself, and dad is doing it to humor him, but in the end, the tyke ain't doin' shit.

McCain and Obama haven't been a part of these negotiations so far; their views have been made known, and they're not on that committee anyway.

With 40 days to go before election day, we found out plenty about John McCain yesterday:

1) he's afraid of facing Obama in a debate because he's just not ready or like a typical neo-con shill he absolutely refuses to want to own any of the last 8 years because he himself believes it's Bush's fault as well. I know, I know, McCain proposed those 10 town halls, but that was all about getting McCain some free exposure since an average of 5 people and a throng of crickets were showing up to listen to him all summer.

2) he's trying to get the VP debate scratched altogether

3) he's trying to refocus his campaign after Gov.Palin gives a terrible interview on CBS and Rick Davis this week it's been revealed was being paid by up until last month by Fannie-Freddie


Poor McCain. I had no idea this month was going to be the way it is. McCain had everyone listening for about a week to 10 days there, and then it all just came crashing down. And I feel especially bad for Gov.Palin, who was mishandled over the last couple days in New York by McCain, and who obviously isn't being let in to the McCain inner circle as evidenced by her interview yesterday where she kept tragically repeating that to her knowledge, Rick Davis recused himself from Fannie-Freddie a couple years ago.

Ouch!

By the way, was it just me, or did Sen.McCain look quite tired and droopy and gaunt yesterday?

You gotta feel for the guy. Like Al Gore, he wanted it so bad that he kept shooting himself in the foot. But more than that, he wanted it so bad and knows that his time has past. He deserved it 8 years ago, and the tragic irony of it all is that the neo-cons did it to him. He wanted to be liked so badly by the group that killed his chances by slandering him in 2000 that he sold his soul to them and everything's gone wrong since because he's not that kind of guy.

Brilliant political theatre if I must say so myself.

A good President can do this thing called "multi-tasking".

And if you forgot, Obama was in Washington last week, had that great big meeting with his advisers and former treasury secretaries, and insisted on 4 major points that must be included in the bill.

It's not Obama's fault that McCain is one week behind and completely fucking lost about what to do.

John McCain still hasn't talked about insisting on Obama's point of eliminating golden parachutes, which ought to be common sense to everybody, but not McCain, who says Fiorina was an "inspiration to every young woman in America". Uh, yeah, an inspiration. Even they can grow up and be crooks like old white men?

He seems to have forgotten he has a day job. I wonder if the people of Illinois feel a little underrepresented ? He's only worked like 143 days so far.

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Actually, according to Sen.Dodd, Obama has been in contact with Paulson and the Banking Committee throughout this whole episode, while McCain has not.

No wonder McCain has no idea what's happening in the world.

Don't any of his people have blackberrys? John McCain is running from himself. There is nothing for him to do in Washington but participate in photo-ops.

Obama and his advisers have been in constant communication with Washington.

Why not McCain? Can't do two things at once?

No I take pleasure in a dishonest party with damaging (see: American financial crisis) policies failing and being given the boot by people who have woken up. Its pure joy to see bad things happen to bad people. I don't mean Jonh McCain, I mean all the Republican neocon spin masters running his campaign and of course the Bush admin. Its too bad McCain got caught up in it because I believe him to be a good guy.