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Old 09-25-2008
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Re: "John McCain suspends campaigning..."

For the sake of country, I sincerely hope that we, voters, pay more attentions to substances regarding candidates' credentials and ability to lead this country. Please cast our vote in good conscious.
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Boy, do you have an imagination. McHoover's Big Move is unraveling before his eyes. Obama is going on with the show without him, if need be, and the players in DC say they don't need his help. McCain's disingenuous claim to put his country first isn't fooling anybody.
Candidates' debate still on - Decision '08 - MSNBC.com

Democratic Congressman Barney Frank, chairman of the House committee shepherding the bailout plan, said all sides were getting close to a deal and accused McCain of "trying to take credit for something that's already happening without him."
Go to the light, Carolyn, go to the light...

What's it like to be completely unhinged? You're 8 posts into your career here and are already hysterical.

Ah, Barney "The Pimp" Frank...now that is a reliable source of nonpartisan information!

You don't have a flag on your "page". Using your very own logic and criteria, I'll assume you don't give a shit about my country. Gee. I'm surprised.

I am absolutely loving the B.O. camp taking their campaign cues from Wile E. Coyote. B.O. will need that giant slingshot. That's the only way he'll ever make it past White House security.

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Yup. Let'em watch.
Mebbe you're figuring what I'm figuring. We, at this exact moment, are in the Ray Romano-esque "holding...wait for it...holding...wait for it..." stage.
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Re: "John McCain suspends campaigning..."

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All the more reason not to panic. This makes McCain seem unsure of himself and the nation.

This is the perfect time to debate. This is not the year 1900, this is the telecommunication age. Neither candidate actually has to be in washington in order to participate in solving the issue. Oh wait, that's right.... John McCain doesn't have any interest in computers....

Andrew
And therein lies your problem. You clearly have not got a damned clue about what this 'economic downturn' actually is. It is most certainly not something that any politician can 'fix' by dropping in for an hour or two to give them his ideas..... I am not at all surprised that you're supporting Obama.
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Re: "John McCain suspends campaigning..."

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Democratic Congressman Barney Frank, chairman of the House committee shepherding the bailout plan, said all sides were getting close to a deal and accused McCain of "trying to take credit for something that's already happening without him."
Barney Frank is as big a part of the problem as anyone. In 2003, he was adamantly saying that Fannie May and Freddie Mac were not in any distress and should be backing more shaky loans.

I give his statements on this issue absolutely zero credibility.

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For the sake of country, I sincerely hope that we, voters, pay more attentions to substances regarding candidates' credentials and ability to lead this country. Please cast our vote in good conscious.
I most certainly will..... by voting for the guy who sees the situation as vital enough to risk the election. Not that asshole who thinks he can 'multi-task' it.
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How can you support an idiot like McCain? Don't you care about the nation? You sport a flag on your page, but you support a 72 year old child and his incompetent fool of a VP?
As opposed to the DNC who have the ticket the other way around.....

Better to risk an incompetent as VP than as POTUS.
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Re: "John McCain suspends campaigning..."

The fact is that McCain's retreat from Friday's debate is impossible to explain except as a cynical political stunt.

Remember the RNC? A convenient hurricane allowed McCain an excuse to tell Junior and Dick that they weren't welcome.

This is no different. Instead of a natural disaster, this is a 100% preventable Republican economic catastrophe.

There sure are a bunch of gullible Republicans here if they believe McCain's word. I wouldn't believe him if he swore on a bible, given his record of dishonorable lying.
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McCain's desperate gamble to take control of the campaign isn't going to work. He will rightly be seen as afraid to debate Obama if he doesn't show up Friday. Not that I blame him, if I were inarticulate and a bumbler I would be scared too.


Based on his performances to date, BHO is the inarticulate bumbler sans teleprompter.
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Barney Frank is as big a part of the problem as anyone. In 2003, he was adamantly saying that Fannie May and Freddie Mac were not in any distress and should be backing more shaky loans.

I give his statements on this issue absolutely zero credibility.

Matt
I'll see your Barney Frank and raise you a Bill Clinton (emphasis mine):

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/bill-clinton-do.html

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ABC News' Nitya Venkataraman Reports: Former President Bill Clinton defended Sen. John McCain's request to delay the first presidential debate, saying McCain did it in "good faith" and pushed organizers to reserve time for economy talk during the [FOREIGN POLICY] debate if the Friday plans move forward.
Meh...I'd have let it stay on "foreign policy" just to see the moderator torture himself making the current financial problem a component of every question asked.

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Appearing on Good Morning America Thursday, Clinton told ABC News' Chris Cuomo that McCain's push to postpone the debate would only be a good political move if both candidates agreed. McCain announced on Wednesday that he would "suspend" his presidential campaign to come to Washington to help negotiate a financial bailout bill
What? McCain put country before politics? What the???! (Duh.)

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"We know he didn't do it because he's afraid because Sen. McCain wanted more debates," Clinton said, adding that he was "encouraged" by the joint statement from McCain and Sen. Barack Obama.
That's right...B.O. a.k.a. Mr. "No Town Halls for me, thank you" will crash and burn if he or his surrogates attempt to accuse McCain of being cowardly. (Just one of my several Charlie/Lucy possibilities.)

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"You can put it off a few days the problem is it's hard to reschedule those things," Clinton said, "I presume he did that in good faith since I know he wanted -- I remember he asked for more debates to go all around the country and so I don't think we ought to overly parse that."
Of course, Bill wants B.O. to lose almost as much as I do. So, it is arguable (there's that phrase again!) that is the inspiration behind his comments.

So, you lefties, what do you figure? Agree with Bill or do you think him a deceitful ever-the-politician determined to win (even if only in the longer run) at any cost? I suppose you can treat it like a Chinese menu and take some of "A" and some of "B"...but there is no "C".

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convenient hurricane
Priceless. You just can't make this stuff up.

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if I were inarticulate and a bumbler I would be scared too.
I'd love to cut you a break and say the jury is still out...but...be afraid - be very afraid.
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Re: "John McCain suspends campaigning..."

Congress reaches bipartisan bailout proposal - Sep. 25, 2008

Newsflash! Congress agreed on a bill. So, now McCain will have to find some other chickenshit excuse not to debate Obama tomorrow.

Any hurricanes on the horizon? Floods? Head lice infestations? Anything?
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I most certainly will..... by voting for the guy who sees the situation as vital enough to risk the election. Not that asshole who thinks he can 'multi-task' it.
What nonsense. McCain isn't "risk[ing] the election" he's pulling this grandstand to try to save the election (“oh, look at me, I’m getting my ass kicked in the campaign so I’m going to Washington to pretend to work on the people’s business”).

Obama is able to continue his campaign, stay engaged with the deliberations about the bailout, come to Washington when summoned by the President, and continue to prepare for the debate. I think that I would like as President someone who has the mental capability to deal with more than one thing at a time.

The other, very cynical, take on this is that McCain knows that Sarah is going to be an embarrassment in the upcoming VP debate so he is trying to get Friday's debate to slip so that they can pre-empt the VP debate all together. I say cynical but we have to remember that McCain’s campaign is being run by a Rove disciple so anything is possible.
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Newsflash! Congress agreed on a bill. So, now McCain will have to find some other chickenshit excuse not to debate Obama tomorrow.
Newsflash! McCain will be retaining possession of his leavened sweetened dessert whilst concurrently consuming it.

Meanwhile, B.O. put in his thumb and pulled out a turd. Dammit...he really thought Lucy would let him kick the ball this time!

See you at the debate.
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The fact is that McCain's retreat from Friday's debate is impossible to explain except as a cynical political stunt.

Remember the RNC? A convenient hurricane allowed McCain an excuse to tell Junior and Dick that they weren't welcome.

This is no different. Instead of a natural disaster, this is a 100% preventable Republican economic catastrophe.

There sure are a bunch of gullible Republicans here if they believe McCain's word. I wouldn't believe him if he swore on a bible, given his record of dishonorable lying.
What nonsense! Anyone who thinks that this is a '100% preventable Republican economic catastrophe' is deluded. This is a catastrophe created by corporate greed by global banks. They knew years ago that this day was coming but carried on regardless - making massive profits - all the while knowing that ordinary people across the planet (and there is a whole world outside the borders of the US).

Had nothing to do with any American politician - not even Bush.

It is typical of anyone who thinks that the Obaaaamanation is gonna save the world that they'd see this in such a simplistic manner.

And as for who's the liar - I've got a laundry list of lies by St Barack the Saviour of the Universe..... Happy to repost it if you'd like to check it out.... I expect you'd rather not see it though. It's quite long.....
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Congress reaches bipartisan bailout proposal - Sep. 25, 2008

Newsflash! Congress agreed on a bill. So, now McCain will have to find some other chickenshit excuse not to debate Obama tomorrow.
Prior to yesterday's announcement by McCain, the bailout deal was looking like it was gonna be a christmas tree with lots of goodies for the Dems friends. McCain says "I'm going to Washington" and ALL OF A SUDDEN Dodd and Frank make the deal happen. But I'm sure it's just coincidence.

McCain understands the power of the bully pulpit. So do Dodd and Frank. They knew McCain was going to go to Washington, with his press hounds in tow, and show all of America just exactly how the Dems were playing this for advantage.

And where was Barack "Call me if you need me" Obama? On a beach in Florida.
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Prior to yesterday's announcement by McCain, the bailout deal was looking like it was gonna be a christmas tree with lots of goodies for the Dems friends. McCain says "I'm going to Washington" and ALL OF A SUDDEN Dodd and Frank make the deal happen. But I'm sure it's just coincidence.

McCain understands the power of the bully pulpit. So do Dodd and Frank. They knew McCain was going to go to Washington, with his press hounds in tow, and show all of America just exactly how the Dems were playing this for advantage.

And where was Barack "Call me if you need me" Obama? On a beach in Florida.

That's nice. They LOVE Obama in Florida........ oh, wait.... no, they don't. Perhaps he was on the beach combing for votes...... quite a few illegals down there on the beaches in Fl!
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