No, you're talking about the Clinton Global Initiative speech. That wasn't a canned audience, but really bad sound because he was giving the speech via satellite.

I was referring to Britt Hume interviewing Obama tonight; no teleprompter that I can make out;

YouTube - Barack Obama Suprise Appearance Fox news

>>>>It's pretty clear this is just cheap political grandstanding, with McCain once again putting the country second to his ambition.<<<<
That is not clear to me at all. Have you ever met a politician who didn't put their political ambitions ahead of their country? Obama is in the same basket as McCain. He is just as much a liar as McCain. They are both criminals and should be arrested for lying to the public while running for public office. Now, regarding the office of Commander-In-Chief of our military. Which man would you put your trust in to do the right thing for our country? nuf said.....
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Whatever the topic, he clearly had teleprompter issues. It was cringeworthy when I saw it live. Now, I can't find the actual live recording and only this AP one with the filler during his restarts and hesitations.

I don't think there will be any large swings in the polls, I see people being dug in, and the true undecideds will determine the outcome, based on how they break. But I do see a 3-4 percent edge for Obama amongst the dug in vote, so if the swing votes go heavily for McCain, he could win, but if the swing vote breaks even or slightly Obama, Happy Days are Here Again.

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Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

Obama, he's the one with the reasoned thought out approach, I wouldn't trust an impulsive old guy who's mental facilities are deserting him at an increasing rate. Look at all the bad decisions McCain has been making, I'd prefer a Commander in Chief who was able to think strategically.

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“ The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.”

Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

Back to the thread.

I think McCain has set up a war with himself that he could have avoided. By suspending everything and going back to Washington to "fix things", the assumption is that he will agree with whatever the bill ends up being.

However, in McCain's heart of hearts, he's not even for this plan the way it is, which is why everything kind of seemed to fall apart today. He's friends with Boehner, and House Republicans want less regulation, a limit on golden parachutes for executives instead of completely eliminating their escape benefits, and removing taxes on these people. Other than earmarks, McCain will have to vote against the bail out because of the fact that there isn't anything "free market" about it, which is why House Republicans are like, "no bloody way".

If he votes for the bailout, than he's contradicting the whole notion of his selling his soul to the far right.

But if he votes against it, than he shoots himself in the foot on the premise that he was going to Washington to fix everything, confirming for indie and moderate but wealthy Republicans that he's too eratic and inconsistent.

I think people are too hard on all candidates for teleprompter or in John McCain's case, cue card, issues.

These aren't actors. They're regular people in an amazing time of crisis.

It's the last thing I worry about watching them.

And it doesn't like this deal for the bailout is going to work out.

Bush snapped his fingers and Republicans were like, "Screw OFF!".

And he tried using Cheney and now McCain, but nothing.

The question about McCain's campaign then becomes: How long does he suspend his campaign?

The House Republicans aren't even showing up to the meeting tomorrow morning.

They could care less for Bush, and I think maybe they could care less for McCain as well. Paulson told them cutting capital gains taxes and having no oversight is out of the question.

What McCain does will be fascinating. He's actually created a quagmire for himself.

This is so exciting. Who could've predicted it was going to be like this this fall?

Damn.

Neither Obama, nor McCain nor Bush had to be at the table where the negotiations took place. They communicate their desires to the people whose job it is to work these things out and then stay out of the way. They review the results of the negotiation, consult with their advisors and make adjustments to their positions. This doesn't take proximity to the room where the negotiations are taking place. Think about a treaty negotiation, there are professional technicians who handle the negotiation of a treaty with policy direction from the White House. When the treaty is ready to sign, that's when the leaders come out and that's the way it should be.

The election is NOT a tie. We don't decide our election on national polls, we select it on the electoral college. Currently Obama is leading in all the Kerry states and also is ahead in Virginia, Colorado, New Mexico and Iowa. That's an electoral college win. And if he snages Ohio or Florida that's a blow out. Sorry y'all McCain needs a game changer. This is not it.

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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008

A nice consise literal interpretation, completely disregarding the symbolism of their actions.

In other news, the Feds took over WaMu tonight, the biggest bank failure in American history. They sold it immediately to JPMorgan Chase.

The strength of Bank of America and JPMorgan Chase to take over these companies like WaMu and Merril Lynch works in favor of the idea that we should let these firms fail, and not bail them out.

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No they don't.

They all wake up in the morning, run down to Starbucks for a raspberry-mocha-mint-creme-girlie-boy-foo-foo-bullshit coffee, come home, read MoveOn.org to check the proper talking points for the day, and then head out into the world.

Just listen to Obama's ads: "McCain is more of the same". Every idiot lib I run into says the same exact fucking thing: "McCain is more of the same".

I have seen zero evidence that your garden variety lib possesses any capacity, whatsoever, for individual thought...

I do, and they are...

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I completely agree, while I also agree that McCain has put himself in an awful position by saying he wanted to help push along a deal.

Bush, by all accounts, was completely disregarded by everyone today, and all the reports are that once the cameras left that meeting, there was a big fight after Boehner said that he wanted to see less oversight and a cut in capital gains taxes and Paulson rejected those two points.

Meanwhile, the debate is going ahead as scheduled, and Obama is going to fly down for it, and then fly back to Washington if there's a vote. They're saying in Old Miss that if McCain doesn't show, they'll turn it into a townhall with Obama and make a note that McCain didn't show.

So weird, and so fascinating. It's getting better by the day.

And you'll laud that as a fabulously accurate poll, right up until McCain overtakes him, which is when you'll cry that Fox is biased against Obama...

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