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mudwhistle · #**436** (**permalink**) 09-26-2008

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Originally Posted by mechadave

The title to this thread should be "McCain Pretends to Suspend Campaign to get Attention." Let us review his non-partisan activities since the suspension.

Fact:
McCain's offensively false attack ads against Obama went on unimpeded- in spite of his promises to stop them.

Fact:
McCain continued his campaign related activities Wednesday and Thursday, including a McCain/Palin sit down with Katie Couric where both savagely criticized and berated Obama in their separate interviews.

Fact:
McCain made nearly all his scheduled campaign appearances, up until the time he flew from NYC to DC for the photo op around the bargaining table, where he contributed next to nothing. Then, McCain had plenty of time on his hands to brag to the press about what a great Maverick he is.

If the MSM wasn't in the tank for McCain, he would be savaged for this cynical stunt.

The MSM in the tank for McCain?

When you said that you lost credibility.

Also, McCain and Palin weren't interviewed at the same time by Couric. So that is pretty much bullshit.

Nice try though.

Angry American · #**437** (**permalink**) 09-26-2008

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Originally Posted by Steve

So what?

Obama's running on a platform of "change". He's quick to point out what he sees as the failings of a bad administration. Why, then, would he run back to Washington on a moment's notice when the leader of that bad administration asks him to come back?

If Obama is truly the agent of change that he'd like us to believe he is, why didn't he say "No thank you, Mr. President, I have more important things to do"?

First you criticize him for not going, now you're criticizing him for going. Have you caught your tail yet?

Steve · #**438** (**permalink**) 09-26-2008

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Originally Posted by Angry American

First you criticize him for not going, now you're criticizing him for going. Have you caught your tail yet?

I'm playing Devil's Advocate.

My personal opinion is that he should've gone, and I won't criticize him for going. My point is that libs were quick to criticize McCain for taking the initiative to go on his own, but don't criticize Obama for going when Bush snaps his fingers...

Angry American · #**439** (**permalink**) 09-26-2008

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Originally Posted by mudwhistle

Also, McCain and Palin weren't interviewed at the same time by Couric. So that is pretty much bullshit.

But they were both interviewed by Couric, after McCain "suspended" his "campaign."

Steve · #**440** (**permalink**) 09-26-2008

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Originally Posted by mudwhistle

Also, McCain and Palin weren't interviewed at the same time by Couric. So that is pretty much bullshit.

To be fair, it was stated that the interviews were separate...

Angry American · #**441** (**permalink**) 09-26-2008

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Originally Posted by Steve

I'm playing Devil's Advocate.

My personal opinion is that he should've gone, and I won't criticize him for going. My point is that libs were quick to criticize McCain for taking the initiative to go on his own, but don't criticize Obama for going when Bush snaps his fingers...

McCain took the exit stage left to shift focus away from his floundering campaign. Obama went to Washington, at the request of the president. McCain has no initiative on the economy.

CorpMediaSux · #**442** (**permalink**) 09-26-2008

The problem is that McCain acted before thinking. Typical McCain. We need cooler heads, not a fighter pilot.

Si modo · #**443** (**permalink**) 09-26-2008

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Originally Posted by Angry American

McCain took the exit stage left to shift focus away from his floundering campaign. Obama went to Washington, at the request of the president. McCain has no initiative on the economy.

If you call a tie in the polls a "floundering campaign", I wonder what a winning campaign is for you? Would that be a tie as well?

Si modo · #**444** (**permalink**) 09-26-2008

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Originally Posted by CorpMediaSux

The problem is that McCain acted before thinking. Typical McCain. We need cooler heads, not a fighter pilot.

I'm no fan of hotheads, just as much as I am no fan of those who cannot make a plan to make plans. I like reasoned and timely action.

mudwhistle · #**445** (**permalink**) 09-26-2008

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Originally Posted by Angry American

But they were both interviewed by Couric, after McCain "suspended" his "campaign."

Are you sure.

Didn't they tape delay that interview?

Steve · #**446** (**permalink**) 09-26-2008

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Originally Posted by Angry American

McCain took the exit stage left to shift focus away from his floundering campaign. Obama went to Washington, at the request of the president. McCain has no initiative on the economy.

That's your opinion.

It's stupid, but it's yours...

mudwhistle · #**447** (**permalink**) 09-26-2008

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Originally Posted by Angry American

McCain took the exit stage left to shift focus away from his floundering campaign. Obama went to Washington, at the request of the president. McCain has no initiative on the economy.

McCain's decison to go was the right one.

Obama's decison not to go or as he put it "Call me if you need me" was wrong.

They both ended up going, Obama unwillingly.

Who was doing the right thing. Who had to be asked to go?

However you want to rationalize this McCain made the right choice and Obama looked like a reluctant participant.

andy764383 · #**448** (**permalink**) 09-26-2008

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Originally Posted by Si modo

The Washington Post has an article on it this morning. My general impression is that neither the Dems nor the GOP were ever in any agreement to be in agreement at all. It sounds like the meeting was filled with lots of contention. Good. They should be looking at this closely and not rush into decisions that cannot be easily reversed. Here is the article: Talks Falter on Bailout Deal

It's pretty clear at this point that there was no deal when Dodd and Frank made those statements. They were trying to lay the blame at McCains feet for interfering, and we'll see that all day today.

How in the world do the Dems think they could craft an important deal like this without consulting the House Republicans?

Poor Barack. No one cares what he thinks.

Si modo · #**449** (**permalink**) 09-26-2008

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Originally Posted by andy764383

It's pretty clear at this point that there was no deal when Dodd and Frank made those statements....

That's my impression as well. I don't like being bamboozled and that's what Frank and Dodd did.

mechadave · #**450** (**permalink**) 09-26-2008

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Originally Posted by Si modo

If you call a tie in the polls a "floundering campaign", I wonder what a winning campaign is for you? Would that be a tie as well?

Whatever the poll you chose, McCain's support is going down. Several polls have been showing fairly large leads for Obama beyond the margin of error. State polling is going very badly for McCain, Michigan for example went from a virtual dead heat after the RNC to a 13% Obama lead.

McCain's lobbyist handlers had to do something to stop the bleeding. I'll bet they are basketball fans, because calling a time-out is the usual way to attempt to stop an opposition scoring run.

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