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Old 10-23-2008
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Re: McCain Campaigner Attacked, B Cut into her face

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The people who said it would be different if a McCain supporter attacked an Obama supporter are right.

In recent weeks we have heard dozens of press reports about nutzo people at McCain and Palin rallies screaming Terrorist! and Kill Him! and the lady who said how can we just an Arab. If it were the other way around it would represent a culmination of hatred of a lot of people whereas in this case it is just one criminal wackjob that is not part of a movement.

Does this make sense?
Dont do know you are repeating a lie?

The SS checked into the "kill him" comment and found out it was never said.

But as usual of your type, dont like the facts stop you from cont to spread lies to smear McCain and his supporters.

Secret Service says "Kill him" allegation unfounded | Wilkes-Barre breaking news | timesleader.com - The Times Leader

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Secret Service says “Kill him” allegation unfounded
By Andrew M. Seder
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Oct. 16, 2008

SCRANTON – The agent in charge of the Secret Service field office in Scranton said allegations that someone yelled “kill him” when presidential hopeful Barack Obama’s name was mentioned during Tuesday’s Sarah Palin rally are unfounded.

The Scranton Times-Tribune first reported the alleged incident on its Web site Tuesday and then again in its print edition Wednesday. The first story, written by reporter David Singleton, appeared with allegations that while congressional candidate Chris Hackett was addressing the crowd and mentioned Obama’s name a man in the audience shouted “kill him.”

News organizations including ABC, The Associated Press, The Washington Monthly and MSNBC’s Countdown with Keith Olbermann reported the claim, with most attributing the allegations to the Times-Tribune story.

Agent Bill Slavoski said he was in the audience, along with an undisclosed number of additional secret service agents and other law enforcement officers and not one heard the comment.

“I was baffled,” he said after reading the report in Wednesday’s Times-Tribune.

He said the agency conducted an investigation Wednesday, after seeing the story, and could not find one person to corroborate the allegation other than Singleton.

Slavoski said more than 20 non-security agents were interviewed Wednesday, from news media to ordinary citizens in attendance at the rally for the Republican vice presidential candidate held at the Riverfront Sports Complex. He said Singleton was the only one to say he heard someone yell “kill him.”

“We have yet to find someone to back up the story,” Slavoski said. “We had people all over and we have yet to find anyone who said they heard it.”
Hackett said he did not hear the remark.

Slavoski said Singleton was interviewed Wednesday and stood by his story but couldn’t give a description of the man because he didn’t see him he only heard him.

When contacted Wednesday afternoon, Singleton referred questions to Times-Tribune Metro Editor Jeff Sonderman. Sonderman said, “We stand by the story. The facts reported are true and that’s really all there is.”

Slavoski said the agents take such threats or comments seriously and immediately opened an investigation but after due diligence “as far as we’re concerned it’s closed unless someone comes forward.” He urged anyone with knowledge of the alleged incident to call him at 346-5781. “We’ll run at all leads,” he said.
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Re: McCain Campaigner Attacked, B Cut into her face

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Com'on guys you know there are nut cases on both sides. This guy is a criminal--he robbed her.

How many ATM robberies are reported on national T.V.? For that matter how many violent attacks on our citizens like this one are reported on national T.V.?

I have good friends that I disagree with politically, & I am certain most of you do too.

Both campaigns would strongly condemn this. Both Obama & McCain would agree that this criminal should be put in prison for a very long time.

So let's let this one go & call it what it is. A violent crime against a woman. The purp should be locked up, & the key thrown away, before he hurts or kills someone.

I agree wholeheartedly but I’ll put the turd in the punchbowl and simply say, yes yes yes its tired but the thread is here- if this had been reversed and an Obama sptter was attacked we would have heard long and loud as to McCain campaign stirring up the rednecks etc. and gosh only knows the yelps if it had been white on black…and of course if current occurrence is black on white well theres no connection to be made etc. hate crime goes one way only.
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Re: McCain Campaigner Attacked, B Cut into her face

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This is just unbelievable. Unfortunately scumbags can vote too. I think the crime deserves at least a 5 year prison sentence if they ever catch him.
More. Depending on the specific details of how he attacked her and whether he meant further damage through carving the "B", he could well (and possibly) should be charged with attempted murder.
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There isn't one! The issue is not relevant and has absolutely nothing to do with Barack Obama.
It IS relevant as the incident, according to the report, is connected to the election. And, to repeat, being connected to the election, according to the definition, is indeed, relevant.

I know some would really wish it weren't relevant, but life isn't fair.
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Old 10-23-2008
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Re: McCain Campaigner Attacked, B Cut into her face

Greetings and Felicitations,

First, let me say that I hope that person that did this, if the accusation is valid, gets arrested very soon.

Second, it seems that lots of people are thinking this is a little contrived. Even Michelle Malkin, that stalwart Conservative of Rachel Ray fame, thinks the story is a little fishy.

Why that McCain volunteer’s “mutilation” story smells awfully weird

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Throughout my career, I’ve covered dozens of fake hate crimes — campus hate crime hoaxes, Muslim hate crime hoaxes, fake noose hangings, etc., etc., etc. Most were perpetrated by liberals, but there have been some shameful ones on our side of the aisle as well.

I’ve reported on the great lengths that warped attention-seekers have gone to in perpetrating fake hate crimes, including beating themselves up, carving swastikas on their dorm room doors and walls, locking themselves in bathroom stalls, and burning down their own houses.

Which is why I’m not jumping up and down with outrage over Drudge-promoted story of a McCain volunteer claiming to have been attacked by a black man whom she accused of carving a “B” in her face after spotting her McCain bumper sticker.

She refused medical treatment after reporting the incident to police. Why on earth would she do that?
I hope the story is true. I would be saddened to learn that this woman perpetrated a fraud and tried to blame it on Obama supporters. If it's not true then we have another case of someone trying to use race as a tool to create outrage. At some point, we have to stop looking at race as a divisor. Things are better than they used to be but we have a long way to go.

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I got ill when I read this. Absolutely disgusting, I still feel a little nauseus. It's just...never that serious. EVER. I want this election over.
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Re: McCain Campaigner Attacked, B Cut into her face

Amen! I rarely agree with you CMS, but the sooner this is over the better!
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Re: McCain Campaigner Attacked, B Cut into her face

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Greetings and Felicitations,

First, let me say that I hope that person that did this, if the accusation is valid, gets arrested very soon.

Second, it seems that lots of people are thinking this is a little contrived. Even Michelle Malkin, that stalwart Conservative of Rachel Ray fame, thinks the story is a little fishy.

Why that McCain volunteer’s “mutilation” story smells awfully weird



I hope the story is true. I would be saddened to learn that this woman perpetrated a fraud and tried to blame it on Obama supporters. If it's not true then we have another case of someone trying to use race as a tool to create outrage. At some point, we have to stop looking at race as a divisor. Things are better than they used to be but we have a long way to go.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely
TBH, I thought it was fishy from the start. Look at the "B" on her face (if the photo is not reversed, that is). That sure looks like a "B" carved while looking in a mirror. I'm surprised no one commented on that. (And, this is why I made sure I said "according to the report" as much as possible.)

But, I do know about that a bit as one of the team members I was coaching painted "Pornstar" on her face before a race. She was hungover and forgot about mirror images. We all had a good laugh at her expense, though.
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Re: McCain Campaigner Attacked, B Cut into her face

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But, according to the definition, there simply needs to be a connection. As this report certainly is connected to the election, your claim that it is irrelevant is only a wish.
Erm, did you read the definition?
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Woman: Robber cut face over McCain sticker on car

Woman Attacked At ATM, Assailant Carves Letter Into Her Face - Pittsburgh News Story - WTAE Pittsburgh

A 20 year old girl was robbed at knife-point, which escalated when the thug saw a McCain sticker on her car. He then punched her in the back of her head, and carved a B (assuming for "bitch" or "Barack") on her cheek.

Question is, how will the liberal media spin this? Will they track down terrible things this woman did and suggest she asked for it? Or will they simply ignore it?

What if the shoe was on the other foot? If a Republican did this to an Obama supporter? How many days would it be on the cover of the New York Times?
According to the Smoking Gun, this whole thing is looking like horseshit.

Joe The Mugger? - October 23, 2008

Not saying that it is, but most of this sounds like typical Republican M.O.
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According to the Smoking Gun, this whole thing is looking like horseshit.

Joe The Mugger? - October 23, 2008

Not saying that it is, but most of this sounds like typical Republican M.O.
Interesting...upon close analyzation, it does look like makeup.
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Try clicking the link. He carved a B into her face when he saw she was a McCain supporter.

A violent crime against someone because they support McCain. Think about it.
Looking like it's BS, m'man.
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Erm, did you read the definition?
Give it up or deal with it.

"... connected with the matter in hand...."

I'll not correct you again, though, as your point couldn't be more irrelevant.
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The increasing chance that this is a hoax does not cause me to feel any better about it. Because it's STILL not that serious and this election STILL needs to end if this is what people are doing to discredit the other side. Gah.
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The increasing chance that this is a hoax does not cause me to feel any better about it. Because it's STILL not that serious and this election STILL needs to end if this is what people are doing to discredit the other side. Gah.
People are taking this election way too seriously. A McCain HQ worker had his house shot at, an Obama volunteer had her head bashed into a wall by an irate man who accused her of being part of ACORN... This has gone on way too long, tensions are way too high, and most of us are just done. It's one thing to talk about it and have disagreements, it's another to cause someone else or their property physical harm.
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