Do you honestly believe that an organization that cannot be trusted in their voter registration can be trusted in the actual act of voting?

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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, ... That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,"
-Declaration of Independence

Two truths that many Americans seem to have forgotten:
1. Men are endowed by God with inalienable rights.
2. Government's purpose is to secure man's God-given rights.

I double dog dare you goob.

*okay, who wants to triple dog dare him so he can't refuse?*

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"If you think about it, UPS and FedEx are doing just fine," he said. "It's the post office that's always having problems." Barack Obama on government run healthcare. 08/11/2009

American by birth.
Conservative by the grace of God.

Still sore about the war of northern aggression.

Don't forget that this "non-profit" also lobbies to up the "minimum wage" to a "living wage", yet petitions states to be able to pay their employees less than the minimum wage....yup that makes sense.

http://personalmoneystore.com/moneyb...corn-report-5/
Morgan Spurlock Watch: ACORN, Spurlock, and the Minimum Wage

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“When government accepts responsibility for people, then people no longer take responsibility for themselves.” George Pataki

these are just the ones that happened to get caught. dont forget they had Harvard lawyers working for them, they should know how to do it safely.

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Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

So what exactly is the problem with ACORN?
They had employees break the law, those employees are in the justice system being dealt with.
It's not like they tortured innocent people.

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“ The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.”

Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

Have they made fraudulent votes? For example have they sought to rig elections?

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Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if Labor had not first existed. Labor is superior to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.

Guess who?

Since when is our government limited to focusing on only one of those? It should look for low bids on defense contracting AND dump the minimum wage.

shifted gears have we?

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"The captain has turned off the `No Dubbing' sign. You are free to speak any language you choose."

Grasping at straws is more like it.

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January 21, 2013: The End of an ERROR.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
"The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself."
---Benjamin Franklin

How do you know it's not just the tip of the iceberg?

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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I never said that it did.

Well thank you good citizen for coming to our rescue and saving us from our selves. There's just one problem. Nothing in my original post was implied or alleged other than seven ACORN workers in Pittsburgh were arrested for forgery and that is a fact, not an implication.

This group has been caught doing this in over a dozen states now in the past two election cycles. No other grassroots group has had this problem on such a wide scale yet they are being funded with billions of dollars from our Federal government and are being enlisted to aid in next year's sentence. A false voter registration may not yield a phony vote, but false entries in the Census on a wide enough scale could certainly result in Congressional districts being proportioned incorrectly.

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"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic." - Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton April 28th, 2003

Carolina Politics Online

HOPE AND CHANGE

So forget the good that ACORN has done and ban the organization for the crimes that were actually committed against it.
Lump all the good in with the few that were bad. And forget that the object of all these crimes exposed thus far was not to alter the vote, the object of every exposed wrongdoing so far was to defraud ACORN of money.

At least be honest, the goal of destroying ACORN is based on a desire to see fewer people legally registered to vote, that's why it's a talking point of the GOP propaganda machine. That's why they whip up the sheep to bleat about it incessantly.
So go ahead and bleat, make El Lardass and all the rest of the puppet masters who pull your strings happy.
And whatever you do, don't think about the fact that this is the intellectual centerpiece of your party's hope for the future.
"Maybe if less colored people vote, the GOP might win"
Pretty good huh? Do they have a plan, a policy, a program to address the real issues of the day? No, but they will try to focus hatred on a group that registers millions of voters legally, who actually do vote, and who actually do make a difference in the outcome of some elections, all perfectly legal, by pointing out that this group has criminals working for it, and please ignore that ACORN itself is the victim of the crimes committed.
You guys are like friggin' Islamic Extremists who want to put a woman to death for being raped.

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“ The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.”

Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

That's quite a strawman you've made there. And it seems you're having fun humping it:

What you are conveniently ignoring here is that ACORN knowingly set the table for these crimes with their pay-per-card schemes. The fact that ACORN continues to run these schemes, even after the dozens of instances where it resulted in fraudulent registrations, speaks volumes about the organization.

The first couple times, perhaps it is an innocent mistake. The 10th time, not so.

The act of submitting a fraudulent registration card is a criminal act in and of itself, and the victim is the state, not ACORN. The financial defrauding of ACORN is a separate criminal act.

Matt

Acorn spokesman Scott Levenson calls the Nevada criminal complaint "political grandstanding" and says that any problems were the actions of an unnamed "bad employee." But Catherine Cortez Masto, Nevada's Democratic Attorney General, told the Las Vegas Sun that Acorn itself is named in the criminal complaint. She says that Acorn's training manuals "clearly detail, condone and . . . require illegal acts," such as requiring its workers to meet strict voter-registration targets to keep their jobs.

More Acorn Voter Fraud Comes to Light - WSJ.com

that puts paid to that.......

you have some nerve questioning peoples honesty.....

and here we go, I am caught so it must be a conspiracy.....how tired and trite, is that why board members have been cut off into blind positions, they have asked for an audit of the org. you know some of the founders of acorn etc. and have been ignored and blocked? Please goober...give it a rest.


regional directors have been indicted goober as I sad the national board is corrput, that from former directors, gosh and they are Obama voting black people, how have said that acorn has been hijacked.
more denial and Uber partisan teeth gnashing horse hockey, in short if somone else does it, its a crime, when you do it, its all a consipiracy to get you.


All of this infuriates Marcel Reid, who, along with seven other national Acorn board members, was removed last year after demanding an audit of the group's books. "Acorn has been hijacked by a power-hungry clique that has its own political and personal agendas," she told me. "We are fighting to take back the group."

More Acorn Voter Fraud Comes to Light - WSJ.com


wow....meds goober.




oh and-

Bertha Lewis, the head of Acorn, told me last year before their ouster that the "Acorn Eight" were "obsessed" and "confused." But Anita MonCrief, an Acorn whistleblower, says the problems run deep. Ms. MonCrief worked at Project Vote, an Acorn affiliate, in late 2007. She says its development director, Karen Gillette, told her she had direct contact with the Obama campaign and also told her to call Obama donors who had maxed out on donations to the candidate but who could contribute to Acorn. Project Vote calls her charges "absolutely false." (Ms. Gillette has declined comment.)

Acorn's relationship to the Obama campaign is a matter of public record. Last year, Citizens Consulting Inc., the umbrella group controlling Acorn, was paid $832,000 by the Obama campaign for get-out-the-vote efforts in key primary states. In filings with the Federal Election Commission, the campaign listed the payments as "staging, sound, lighting," only correcting them after reporters from the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review revealed their true nature.

More Acorn Voter Fraud Comes to Light - WSJ.com

and lets tlak about partisan back tracking-

The stink is bad enough that some congressional Democrats have taken notice. At a March 19 hearing on election problems, Michigan Rep. John Conyers, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, pressed New York Rep. Gerald Nadler, chairman of the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, to hold a hearing on Acorn. He called the charges against it "serious." Mr. Nadler agreed to consider the request.

Mr. Nadler's office now says there will be no hearing on Acorn because Mr. Conyers has changed his mind. Mr. Conyers's office released a statement on Monday saying that after reviewing "the complaints against Acorn, I have concluded that a hearing on this matter appears unwarranted at this time." A Democratic staffer told me he believes the House leadership put pressure on Mr. Conyers to back down. Mr. Conyers's office says it is "unaware" of any contacts with House leaders.

Then there's Barney Frank, the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee. Last month, he voted for a committee amendment (to the Mortgage Reform and Anti-Predatory Lending Act) by Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R., Minn.) to block groups indicted for voter fraud from receiving federal housing or legal assistance grants. Identical language was passed into law in the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008. Mr. Frank now says he "had not read [the amendment] carefully" before backing it. He gutted the amendment on Thursday, claiming that the language Congress passed just last year is "a violation of the basic principles of due process."

A lot of money is at stake. In the stimulus bill passed by Congress, Acorn is eligible -- along with other activist groups -- to apply for $2 billion in funds to redevelop abandoned and foreclosed homes. Meanwhile, public records show that last spring the IRS filed three tax liens totaling almost $1 million against Acorn, most of which concerned employee withholding.

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"The captain has turned off the `No Dubbing' sign. You are free to speak any language you choose."

The point is to have an educated electorate that votes out of a sense of civic duty and an honest opinion on the issues.

Not out of addiction to beer and cigarettes.

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January 21, 2013: The End of an ERROR.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
"The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself."
---Benjamin Franklin