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Old 05-11-2009
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Re: The GOP Losses Another One Of Their Big Guns...

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hello do you read the posts here? wanna defend the reason why employees were punished for accessing his private information and how that got into the medias hands?
I honestly don't know WTF you're talking about. Have any URLs to support your claims?
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I deliberately cited an equally ridiculous example to make my point.

You get it?
I guess - I don't watch either of them, I was just curious.

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I honestly don't know WTF you're talking about. Have any URLs to support your claims?
as I thought, you don't read posts, see post #34......


According to a subsequent investigation by the Ohio Inspector General, on October 16, 2008, just four days after Mr. Wurzelbacher questioned Obama, Jones-Kelley, Williams and Thompson held a meeting and specifically discussed "Joe the Plumber." Following the meeting the defendants authorized and instructed agency personnel to search confidential office databases to retrieve information about Mr. Wurzelbacher. All three defendants are believed to have been supporters of Obama's presidential campaign.


The Inspector General found "no legitimate agency function or purpose for checking on [Mr. Wurzelbacher's] name through the [confidential databases] or for authorizing these searches," which he labeled a "wrongful act." The Inspector General also determined that one of the defendants, Helen Jones-Kelley misused state resources to conduct political activities on behalf of Obama.
Judicial Watch Files Civil Rights Lawsuit on Behalf of "Joe the Plumber" | Judicial Watch
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The Ohio Democrat Party most certainly smeared him or did you forget about employees of the Strickland administration having to resign their jobs after it was discovered they abused their positions in the government by illegally accessing his personal information and leaking it to the media?

The man was most definitely demonized by the party and the left wing of the blogosphere. He was a private citizen who was ruthlessly attacked by a political party and its private lackeys. That's the kind of thing that goes on in banana republics, not here in the U.S., not until now anyway.
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as I thought, you don't read posts, see post #34......


According to a subsequent investigation by the Ohio Inspector General, on October 16, 2008, just four days after Mr. Wurzelbacher questioned Obama, Jones-Kelley, Williams and Thompson held a meeting and specifically discussed "Joe the Plumber." Following the meeting the defendants authorized and instructed agency personnel to search confidential office databases to retrieve information about Mr. Wurzelbacher. All three defendants are believed to have been supporters of Obama's presidential campaign.


The Inspector General found "no legitimate agency function or purpose for checking on [Mr. Wurzelbacher's] name through the [confidential databases] or for authorizing these searches," which he labeled a "wrongful act." The Inspector General also determined that one of the defendants, Helen Jones-Kelley misused state resources to conduct political activities on behalf of Obama.
Judicial Watch Files Civil Rights Lawsuit on Behalf of "Joe the Plumber" | Judicial Watch
So you consider the digging up of factual information of an individual, morally or imorally, an "attack?"
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Re: The GOP Losses Another One Of Their Big Guns...

if you are donw wiht this-

The Inspector General found "no legitimate agency function or purpose for checking on [Mr. Wurzelbacher's] name through the [confidential databases] or for authorizing these searches," which he labeled a "wrongful act." The Inspector General also determined that one of the defendants, Helen Jones-Kelley misused state resources to conduct political activities on behalf of Obama.


so you are down with that? gov. operatives to make a political point, running a search on confidential information on you?
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if you are donw wiht this-

The Inspector General found "no legitimate agency function or purpose for checking on [Mr. Wurzelbacher's] name through the [confidential databases] or for authorizing these searches," which he labeled a "wrongful act." The Inspector General also determined that one of the defendants, Helen Jones-Kelley misused state resources to conduct political activities on behalf of Obama.


so you are down with that? gov. operatives to make a political point, running a search on confidential information on you?
This happens all the time in the media and in politics. People's lives and information get digged up and exposed. I'm not gonna obsess on this one case over the rest.

Again, I ask....do you consider that to somehow be an..."attack?"
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This happens all the time in the media and in politics. People's lives and information get digged up and exposed. I'm not gonna obsess on this one case over the rest.

It does? Oh I wasn’t aware that was happening, can you provide other examples where in a citizens private information in the governments hands, is searched for by a government operative so as to provide a political party information?



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Re: The GOP Losses Another One Of Their Big Guns...

Boy this guy sure knows how to make a headline.....

I'm betting this is something that his PR guy cooked up.


I thought Joe was an idiot, but as much as we're paying attention to Joe, I think we're the ones demonstrating idiotic behavior.
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Boy this guy sure knows how to make a headline.....

I'm betting this is something that his PR guy cooked up.


I thought Joe was an idiot, but as much as we're paying attention to Joe, I think we're the ones demonstrating idiotic behavior.
its a slow news day...
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Boy this guy sure knows how to make a headline.....

I'm betting this is something that his PR guy cooked up.


I thought Joe was an idiot, but as much as we're paying attention to Joe, I think we're the ones demonstrating idiotic behavior.
Joe is an idiot, at least with respect to foreign policy and economics.

Joe was a willing pawn in a little marketing game the Republicans were running: "Look at how in touch we are with the 'average' Joe." Yeah, certainly made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside when the Republicans made him one of their spokesman and sent him on the campaign trail.
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Joe is an idiot, at least with respect to foreign policy and economics.

Joe was a willing pawn in a little marketing game the Republicans were running: "Look at how in touch we are with the 'average' Joe." Yeah, certainly made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside when the Republicans made him one of their spokesman and sent him on the campaign trail.
I know... but it's all this ire that's giving him stature.

His 15 minutes should have been up by now. People need to let it go...
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Joe is an idiot, at least with respect to foreign policy and economics.

Joe was a willing pawn in a little marketing game the Republicans were running: "Look at how in touch we are with the 'average' Joe." Yeah, certainly made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside when the Republicans made him one of their spokesman and sent him on the campaign trail.

Lets not just on this on the reps, he asked a question, the media took off after him, as the answer turned out to be a blunder, the reps jumped the shark.
There’s plenty of hypocrisy for all. The sad fact is the duping worked, no one remembers the question and answer anymore, because he did indeed overstay his welcome.
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At least Obama stated pretty clearly that he was more interested in spreading the wealth than in concentrating it between himself and his circle of friends.
What did those people do to deserve to have our money?

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The GOP can't ever come out and actually say that: We stand for the right to swindle all the country's money and line the pockets of our donors, therefore can the rest of you pricks pull yourself up by your boot-straps and get workin' for our great swindle? Now go!
What great swindle? You mean people who run businesses to make a profit.

If only people realized they were involved in the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Hell I bet half of them vote democrat.

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ou forget that this whole mess with the economy came about because well over $700 billion was distributed wholesale to the top 1% from the bottom 99%.
You mean TARP, payback for all those toxic politically correct assets the banks were forced to take on.

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If the head of the company were still only making 40 times the amount of the person at the bottom end of the company, instead of the now 400+ times more than they make than that of the lowest at the company, the current recession would have been avoided altogether.
And how would that work?
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Well, this is truly the end of the Republican Party. I mean, I think they could have survived A US senator switching parties, but a plumber who asked Obama a question? I expect to see the GOP file dissolution papers later today.
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If "they" didn't raise the idiot to national prominance, this thread could have never been created.

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