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Re: Court rules for white firefighters over promotions
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That makes no sense at all. These were already the most experience firefighters at the station, who were taking the test. The point was to become captain. There is only one captain at each fire station, and they are supposed to be helping the selection process, not tutoring one of the applicants, in an obvious conflict of interests. You are not going to be able to find a tutor for this test who can actually teach you how to be a better captain. Why not just advertise the positions on eBay, and skip the test all together? Just give the jobs out to the higherst bidder? |
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And you don't find anything unethical about some people being able to buy a higher paying job, all because they could afford to hire your brother? And your brother would still not know the proper procedures for these particular stations and equipment. So far, I am the only one who has quoted any fact or sources, such as the court opinions or actual test contents. |
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Have you seen the costs of graduate school? |
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Nonsense. He testified he spend over $1000, and 13 hours a day. No normal person could do that. And what makes you think a dyslexic would be able to do the job at all, much less as well as the other applicants? These tests were for captain, which is not only well paid, but has multiple pension potential. Here is what a quick search came up with for potention salary: Quote:
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Clearly, you've never gone to college, because that's what college is, too. If I want a promotion, I'll do whatever I need to do in order to gain the knowledge and experience to make me a viable candidate for the position. Anything less is negligence on my part... Quote:
My brother's been out of the firefighting game for more than a few years. My point was that there are a myriad of people out there just like him. In fact, people like my brother would never charge to impart that knowledge on a fellow firefighter. They would give it for free. Anyone who says they can't learn the requisite information, when it's so readil available, is full of shit. Firefighters like my brother wouldn't see it as a chance to earn a buck, they would see it as a chance to impart their knowledge on other fireman, and to advance the science of firefighting. If someone didn't know the information contained in the test, it's not because they couldn't afford to learn it... Quote:
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And how many recently retired fire captains would be available to be hired as a tutor? And one thing is for certain, that you could NEVER get any advanced firefighting information from a univeristy such as Yale. They would only have theoretical information, not actual field experience. The only sources of information would be from the provided material, and it should all have been freely and equally accessible. Anyone having any advantage would invalidate the test. |
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Re: Court rules for white firefighters over promotions
Graduate school is entirely different, because it is always expensive to be able to obtain that level of additional education.
But that has nothing to do with field experience with actual station procedures, that can not be learned from a tutor. If spending additional money actually made a person a better captain, then I would have nothing to complain about. But clearly there is nothing to indicate that. The tutors only seemed to be for passing this particular test, which does not seem to well reflect actual procedures. |
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Clearly you have never gone to college, or else you would know that you can't take a course in advance firefighting operations of a local firestation. Your brother would not know local procedures, and not typical or necessarily even possible to find. The point was there was testimony that the test contained questions that were wrong, and in conflict with the free reading material and actual station procedures. People who then got questions like this right, would not be better for the job. |
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The test was NOT to become a firefighter, but to become a captain, who does lots of paperwork. A person who tranposed letters could cause problems in this role. |
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Think long and hard before you answer that question... Quote:
Examples would be appreciated (not to mention required), although I don't think you'll be able to provide any...
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Get a fucking clue, for God's sake...
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Re: Court rules for white firefighters over promotions
ALL TESTS need to go by-by.. no more tests for any thing...
No more government tests, school tests , job tests, medical tests for doc, nurse.... after all the tests are loaded with raciest questions in one form or another. Would one like to be a Doc? just ask for a lic.. Would one like to be an Airline Pilot? just ask for the lic.. no test needed just ask and one can become one.
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Re: Court rules for white firefighters over promotions
She could be a captain, she does paperwork all day long.
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