You keep making incorrect declarations. I asked the basis for them.

It's OK, your comments clearly indicate you have no experience at all, you can be honest and admit it.

I'm asking a relevant question. Can you man up and answer it honestly, or will you continue evading?

Matt

Abso-trucking-lutley!
If people go off reading on their own, and coming up with their own procedures, you are doing to have conflicts or unknowns at the fires.
Everything should be standardized.
Otherwise it will be unsafe.

Again, as someone who has actually done the job being discussed, I'm telling you that you are utterly wrong.

Do you have some direct, personal experience in the fire service, or are you just making this bullshit up post by post?

The FACTS are that one test taker was quoted as saying the test was bad, and gave the parking example to prove it.
We also know the competing test company said it was bad, but we don't have their exact testimony.
So the ONLY facts we have say the test was bad.
That does not prove the test was bad, but requires more from you to refute it. And no one has anything to refute it.

As to how you know which answers are totally wrong, it is usually obvious.
Uusually 2 of the 4 answers are just totally absurd, and anyone can tell they are silly.

We have never been discussing firefighting, but this one particular test, which you insist on being totally against all the information we have about it.

Again, can you be honest and tell us your personal fire service experience? It's a simple question, and you've made statements based on your experience in the thread.

If you're going to use your personal experience to sustain your argument, the only honest thing to do is detail it.

Matt

That is his opinion, and as others with relevant experience have pointed out, his lack of understanding of the example does not make it a bad test.
So a competing test company says it is bad and you think that means it is?

So if Ford says GM doesn't make as good of car, we should take that as the final word on the topic?
No, these are opinions. I suggest you do some research and discover the difference between the terms.
Well actually yes, a lot of things have been said to refute it. You, however, refuse to accept these facts in favor of baseless opinion.
Obvious to those who have relevant knowledge of the topic, yes.
Sorry but that simply is not true. In SOME cases they are absurd, in others - particularly tests which are seeking comprehension of specific knowledge - they do not work that way.

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Silence is golden...Duct tape is silver.

There is only one correct way when it makes a difference, on all the trucks where it DOES make a difference, they all should be parked in the same way, which means the most sensible thing to do is to park all trucks in that way in case it does make a difference.

You are making yourself look increasingly stupid, you should stop digging the hole.


Except apparently the people who are obviously such complete idiots that they still managed to fail the test. How is it that supposedly knowledgeable people managed to do so poorly (even without "cheating") that they couldn't do well on what is basically a true/false test (if 2 of 4 answers are so utterly absurd that anyone can tell, then a truly knowledgeable person shouldn't need any tutoring to do well on a test where they have a 50/50 shot of getting right even if they know nothing).

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I'm asking for actual proof, not what some loser who probably failed the test said. You got any?

Now, in the books which the passing firefighters used, where is the information that was on the test which you have a problem with? Could you also point out the fire station procedure which you claim is contradictory to that information?

Once again, pointing to some loser who probably failed the test is no sufficient evidence of this.

I remind you of what you said:

"the test to be derived from purchased material that they were told was not necessary"

So, here is what you need to prove:

Let's call the incorrect info relating to the contradictory material INFO I and the "correct" info INFO C.

1. Point out where on the test INFO I was asked.
2. Point out the books used by the other firefighters.
3. Point out where in those books INFO I was contained.
4. Point out where someone in an official position said that INFO C was unnecessary.
5. Show how INFO I is necessarily contradictory to INFO C.

You know, when I Google "halogen", I find nothing about fire fighting.

Perhaps you'd be kind enough to provide some links which discuss its' use.

I don't suspect you will, though...

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If it wasn't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all...

Well, they don't.

Most do.

New Haven does not...

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If it wasn't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all...

To be fair to him, halogen is one of the inert gases in halon systems.

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Silence is golden...Duct tape is silver.

You're the one who volunteered your "experience" in the first place.

We've all but shown that your "experience" is, at best, pitiful, however...

So what do they use instead of a simple stand pipe?

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Too late.

You brought your experience into this conversation, so don't whine like a child when we question you on it...

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