No way.
The only way a fire inspector could test them without intimate internal knowledge, would be to risk thousands of dollars worth of water damage.
No fire inspector would ever be allowed to tamper with a building system because they can not have intimate internal knowledge.
No fire personnel I have ever run into has ever known anything about them.
They are installed by different commercial experts, that the fire department knows nothing about.

The most a fire inspector could do would be to insist on being there when the private company ran their tests.

Each building has different control systems, compressors, pumps, valves, sensors, alarms, storage tanks, etc.
They span centuries and a multitude of suppliers, not to mention modification and repairs.
No fire inspector would ever try to assume working knowledge of a system.

Yes way - and by the way - you said BASIC fire systems. Please do not try to change your tune now to included every aspect of every system. Also, the issue was with testing, not tampering.

Again you are wrong.

Maat, there are a multitude of tests which are given on specific technical knowledge in virtually every field. The people who do well are those who know their shit. Those who do not, do not. It is that simple. Yes, there are some techniques which can enable those who DO know the topic to perform better, but if they do not know it, they're pretty well fucked. Your repeated assertions notwithstanding.

To put it succinctly, your arguments have been utterly eviscerated by people who actually DO know the case at hand as well as those with specific knowledge of firefighting, yet you insist upon arguing that YOU are correct while providing nothing to support your assertions.

That is the behavior of a child Maat.

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My guess is you never posted it because you had no evidence.Uhuh, sure. Face it, all you have to support your case is bullshit you've imagined.Nope, I've looked over (quickly, however) the thread and have not seen any such links posted by you. In fact, I can't recall any links being posted by you. I may be wrong, but unless you post it, your claims are unsubstantiated.Well, there is a need, because few others share your distorted view of reality.Yes, we've figured that the assumption of your infallibility is necessary to believe what you say.Actually, I would be very happy that, if faced with numerous candidates that have sufficient skills, the publicly funded employer will pick the better candidates who have more than sufficient abilities and skills.

Wrong as usual. You really enjoy displaying ignorance on this, don't you?

Do you know how I know you are wrong?

Because I've been an officer on a line piece, and I've actually done what you are claiming is impossible.

Please, stop making up this stupid shit and posting it. You're just making yourself look silly.

Matt

Wrong.
I have first hand knowledge and experience of how standardized test can be passed with flying colors, with no special knowledge at all.
That is because most tests have to be aimed at people who do not take tests well.

And you are totally wrong about all the evidence.
For example, the parking on a hill question.
No one has explained how the question could possibly be any good, given that it did not specify things like truck make, and yet demanded a single answer, that can not exist.
Nor could anyone explain how an appropriate test can be on supplemental reading material that was not used at the station?
What point would there be in testing on information contrary to what the station actually did?

You claim specific knowledge, facts, or experience; but you don't actually give any example at all. I do.

That is silly because there were lots of articles on the suit.
So there is lots of evidence.

You are wrong, because I recently posted several links about halogen systems, including for race cars.

And it is your obligation to read about the case and keep up with the thread, not mine.

And itis foolish for you to assume the best candidate is the one who spends thousands on books and tutors.

No, you are in conflict with the known truth.
No fire official would risk the lawsuit by trying to play around with a building fire suppression or alarm system.

I am stunned. I am utterly fucking stunned.

Usually, I like people who display such a vast degree of ignorance. They’re fun to fuck with.

But this is unreal.

Maat, you have taken the concept of “profound ignorance” and advanced it to an art form.

You make statements and, when asked to back them up, you don’t just cower away from doing so; no, that’s far too common a response for the clueless. You’d get lost in that crowd. No, you opt to not only cower away from backing up what you say, you whine about its’ relevance (when it’s you who first mentioned your so-called “experience”), and then finish it off with what can only be described as a royal flourish of ignorant stupidity by make some other ridiculous statement.

I really don’t know what to say. After a few years here on USPOL, I thought I’d encountered the most ignorant of the world’s ignorant. But you have proven that you are not one to be bested. As you see it, no one shall be as ignorant as you and, surely, no one shall surpass you. After reading your posts again, it is clear that you have adopted this as your personal mission.

I truly wish only the best for you.

And I truly wish for you to be adequately medicated as required…

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I'll repeat this slowly.

I
have
done
what
you
are
saying
never
happens.

Do you not understand what that means?

Just accept it - you're WRONG.

Period.

Matt

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Here's a link to request a fire department inspection of alarms and sprinklers by the fire department: Montgomery county, Md - Systems and Structures Inspection Request

Looks like Maat222 has been proven wrong again.....

Back to more on topic things...

Yay for the White Firefighters, no, yay for America. The idea that Blacks didn't have the mental acumen to pass these tests is so incredibly insulting that there should have been near riots in New Haven. Where's Al Sharpton to decry this outrage? Out trying to help Joe Jackson pimp his new record label.

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Yeah, but not necessarily evidence that supports your position.WTF do halogen systems for race cars (among other things) have to do with what I asked you to support?Let's call the incorrect info relating to the contradictory material INFO I and the "correct" info INFO C.

1. Point out where on the test INFO I was asked.
2. Point out the books used by the other firefighters.
3. Point out where in those books INFO I was contained.
4. Point out where someone in an official position said that INFO C was unnecessary.
5. Show how INFO I is necessarily contradictory to INFO C.

Where exactly does the halogen system for race cars come in?

Nonsense.
Are you claiming that the fire inspector starts up the generater, pumps, alarms, etc., on his own?
That is foolish.
If you don't do that right, you could burn out the whole system, and start a fire.

No, if the Blacks and Hispanics had been warned some people were going to spend thousands in order to do well on the test, they may have considered spending that much as well.

The bogus claim is that doing well on the test means they would be a better choice.
That claim is false.
Those more familiar with the actual station procedures would be the better choice.