Not that anyone cares about facts, but:

This is what Palin was warning media about in regards to a lawsuit. As this thread and all future palin threads are going to be primarily personal attacks, I think this will be it on this topic for me. Some things are not worth discussing.

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-Thomas Jefferson

If by Conservative woman, you mean moron.

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-Thomas Jefferson

I have to admit I am totally confused by this move. I have no idea what she is thinking and it will only add fuel to her critics' fires.

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Well, she has many accomplishments and prezbo has none, what does that make him ?

Manly she needs to make some money. These constant and goundless attacks have cost her half a mil in legal bills. She needs to hit the road for speaking engagements and unlike Tim Kaine knows its wrong to do that AND be governor.

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"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

Yes, we know that your sides definition of conservative.

Do you have anything of substance to add?

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January 21, 2013: The End of an ERROR.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
"The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself."
---Benjamin Franklin

Palin has strong support inside the GOP, but the independent voter is where she cratered in 2008, and this has done nothing to help her with the independent voter. Things are tough for 49 other governors right now, they are raising taxes, cutting spending, and taking a beating in the media, but they are doing the job they were elected to do.
Palin returned to Alaska after the election and got into fights with just about the whole political establishment there and now she has added "QUITTER" to her brief resume.
Her speaking style is disjointed, more like a sing-song rant than a coherent message, and none of this is helping her with the independent voters that she would need to be a viable national candidate.
Think about it, she had the national stage last Friday for maybe the last time before the election cycle begins in earnest, and she rambled on without leaving a significant sound bite, there isn't anything that she said that every media outlet could pick up and play as her "message".
She is a long way from being a credible candidate, and her exposure will be limited to paid appearances before small audiences of her adoring fans, with little in the way of national coverage, because the national press does not descend on a rotary club meeting to hear someone whine about how unfairly she gets treated by the press.
Her problem is that when she gets the stage, when she gets the microphone, she doesn't do anything to help her cause.

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Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

Sarah Palin is probably the last person I would ever vote for in a presidential election.

Regardless of whether she thinks Africa is a country, or thinks the earth is 4000 years old or whether she embezzled the materials for her home, she hasn't demonstrated any real reasons to vote for her. Even if those rumors are unfounded, she believes in creationism, doesn't handle questions well, hasn't demonstrated any real ability to think well under pressure among a myriad of other weaknesses, not the least of which she didn't really know the role of the vice president even though that was the position for which she accepted nomination. Lastly, she has proven very uncapable at quelling all of those rumors. Every presidential candidate has rumors that can sink them. Their ability to quell those rumors determines in large part whether they succeed. Reagan was teflon, GHWB came across as a 'wimp', Clinton had marital infidelity rumors (yes before his first term), GWB was a military deserter, Obama isn't a US citizen and hangs out with terrorists. Yet they all managed to overcome those rumors and win presidential elections (with some supreme court help in bush's case).

I personally consider Palin a national embarrassment. The fact that she was almost a heartbeat away from being the most powerful leader in the world shows what a farce the current political system is. Jefferson was right to hate the political party system.

The fact that she's considered a darling of the far right says just how ridiculous the GOP has become. Democrats haven't won the last few elections, republicans have lost them. Reagan is turning over in his grave right now.

And there you have the only real qualification the left has, the used car salemen like speaking ability. Strap Obama down in front of a hostile press without a teleprompter and watch him fall apart. Hell, take him off script and he reveals the whole secret plan of redistributing wealth. Talk about embarrassment.

Reagan is spinning in his grave, only because so many members of his party seem to think the best way defeat socialists is to join them.

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January 21, 2013: The End of an ERROR.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
"The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself."
---Benjamin Franklin

And that makes the score;

Left-- One
Right-- Zero

That seems pretty accurate.

Do you really honestly think Palin can perform under pressure better than Obama? Since you want to compare Obama to Palin, let me ask you this: How much moral outrage would have been directed at Obama if he had an unwed teenage daughter who was pregnant? Yet Palin basically got a free pass on that issue.

You can pretend Obama is a terrible public speaker, an automaton who can't function without a teleprompter in order to make yourself feel better, but that doesn't make it actually true.

You're right, there sure wasn't much noisemaking to the contrary from the rightwingers when bush was skyrocketing our debt by 4 trillion and greatly enlarging the US government. The ONE GOP candidate who ACTUALLY genuinely would have tried to limit the size and spending of the US government was ridiculed off the stage by his own party.

That man was the person I voted for. Ron Paul. Don't lump me in with the 'left'. Its perfectly possible to see Palin for the terrible candidate she is, and not be leftwing. I happen to be fairly libertarian in my leanings, and whatever Palin and the GOP have become it is NOT libertarian. Obama is no libertarian either, which is why I didn't vote for him. However, I'm not naiive enough to put Palin and Obama anywhere on the same continent when it comes to measuring their intelligence and competence.

He'd be "representin".

And you can characterize Palin as just another shrill, overly emotional Mrs Lovejoy, but that doesn't make it actually true.

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January 21, 2013: The End of an ERROR.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
"The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself."
---Benjamin Franklin

Palin's political career after this move is done, whether she and her supporters want to admit it or not. Her achilles heel all along is that she has had little experience on the big stage and this move just goes to reinforce that deficiency. Ferraro said it best on FoxNews the other day, she had access before this move that she no longer has. People had to , wanted to deal with her because she was a governor. Now that's gone. Additionally, stepping down this way just makes her look like a quitter. She is going to get barrage after barrage of that from not just the media, but people within her own party if she runs in 2012. This whole move just made her look like the lightweight her critics have always called her.

The only way this makes sense is if she wants to parley her fame into winning a Fox News seat. That's it. She can be the hotter Anne Coulter or something. And probably make a lot of money doing so. People love their political chum, especially if it is spoken in exasperated tones. But if she did this to be able to tour the nation and prepare more for 2012, she is going to be a joke. It will make Rudy Guiliani's campaign strategy in 2008 look wise.

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Smooth seas do not make skillful sailors.
--African proverb

Science is a wonderful thing if one does not have to earn one's living at it.
--Albert Einstein

Not mine, that's just my definition of Sarah Palin. My grandmother was conservative to say the least--God rest her soul--and I certainly wouldn't consider her a moron. Then again my grandmother was a lot smarter than Sarah Palin.

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"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."

-Thomas Jefferson

Brilliant observation, oops that me !


These Bush types are really in need of serious buffers to control their message the most obvious sign of their lack of leadership/communication skills.

Bush had to have scripted news events, controlled crowds and planted journos in the audience to make him "appear in charge".

The TV media was forever making excuses for him/her because their arrogance and conceit proved not just offensive but elitist and out of touch with regular folks. (e.g. Palin's shopping spree for clothes during the campaign.)

Now that she's quit the pundits are covering up for this bizaree farewell speech by even more complex excuses for her. Book tours, paid speeches etc.

Paid speeches about what? How to find and keep better handlers?

She was a PR nightmare from the start, and as the country's problems become more complex and crucial to solve, "change" is starting to look more ceremonial, symbolic, if not simply a PR stunt, and a photo op.

a) Did he win ?

b) Would she ?

c) If you don´t give any reason you can´t be attacked.

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of a boom brought about by credit (debt) expansion.
The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner
as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit (debt) expansion,
or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved." - Ludwig von Mises