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Old 07-06-2009
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Re: Sarah Palin's Gonna Resign from Her 1st Term As Governor...

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Did you understand what she was saying? You know I am a little tired of perfectly pronounced speeches--Washington politicians that are so good at speaking out of both sides of their mouths--that they can do it-- in the same sentence.

I want politician like Sarah Palin who speaks the truth--no matter if it's not perfectly pronounced. I want politicians who do not have speeches written by others--to be delivered by a teleprompter. I want politicians who explain things to me--like I would to them.

I don't want a rehearsed--staged performances. If that means a little rambling off topic every now & then--that's perfectly O.K. with me.
Do you understand her?
Her popularity ends at the Republican Border, if you want to give her the benefit of the doubt and excuse her lack of preparation then you are probably a Republican, if you are an Independent, then you switch off after you lose her rambling train of thought babbling halfway through it.
Since Republicans are less than 30% of the electorate, they need to dominate the Independent vote to win nationally. Without a complete remake, she doesn't stand a chance in a national election.

If she was going to be a serious contender, she would have been boning up on national issues, learning how to make a coherent speech, you know, one with a beginning, a middle , an end and a point.
She hasn't done anything except complain about the press and alienate the political establishment in Alaska.
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Re: Sarah Palin's Gonna Resign from Her 1st Term As Governor...

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"Rambling on"? At least it wasn't a prepared speech (written by someone else) that was read from a teleprompter. THANK GOD!

I don't know why you didn't understand it--I sure did. Basically she stated she's tired of the attacks on herself & her children--she's tired of the frivilous charges--that she spends 99% of her time as govenor fighting--& it's in the best interest of the citizens of Alaska to move on.

What's not to understand?
As with most of her speeches, it's a struggle to extract an intelligent idea. Even George Will said he wasn't clear what she was saying after watching the speech and reading it. Being genuine is one thing. It's was obviouse to me during the election, especially the VP debate, that she memorizes a few talking points and that's it.
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Re: Sarah Palin's Gonna Resign from Her 1st Term As Governor...

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And just why would you want a two third Dem maqjority ?
The Republicans deserve to get what they want sometimes
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There is NO-ONE in politics today that relates so easily (without the use of a telepromter) with average--everyday Americans--like Sarah Palin does--& that's what scares the hell out of them.
Is that why republican and conservative elites are writing her off?

You do realize that even fox news was presenting negative opinion of here decision, of which alaskans do not even understand.
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Re: Sarah Palin's Gonna Resign from Her 1st Term As Governor...

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She will most likley run for senate in 2010, to get the washington experience and prepare for her run in 2012 and 2016.

If I were in her position I would take a power too. her family has been attacked none stop, and she can make 50-100k to make a speach...
If she intends to stay in politics at all that's the only thing making sense. But why not simply say that?

Though there are good reasons not to announce until the last minute.

But then why resign now?? Surely an unannouced campaign would not detract that much from her Governor's duties.

OTOH, she might not get attacked as much

OTOOH this might make her get attacked more......

Maybe she IS getting into Turkey Farming.
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Re: Sarah Palin's Gonna Resign from Her 1st Term As Governor...

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Palin is an idiot and so is Bush. However, Bush won the Presidency so what does that tell you? Intelligence is not required to get the job, even if it's essential to do the job. Americans are perfectly capable of electing idiots to the highest office, and they will do so again.

Palin has dug herself in a hole not because of a lack of intelligence but because when handed the biggest opportunity of her life, she turned lazy and came out unprepared. Nevertheless, Palin's strength is her ability to articulate the social conservatives' mood in a way that's endearing to them.

The social conservative (and majority) segment of the GOP want a simple hockey-Mom as Pres; these folks are, after all, completely uneducated and are therefore turned off by politicians who rattle off big, complicated words like "sovereignty", "supply and demand", "retaliation", etc.

But Palin never uses those terms, because she, like the conservative audience she addresses, doesn't know what they mean.

Furthermore, they like vote for anyone who opposes abortion and has stayed married to his/her spouse for a long time and who isn't gay and is Xtian.

Palin's real weakness is not her lack of noodle; it's her perceived lack of foreign policy experience--key word: perceived. John McNutt never had any foreign policy noodle, either, but the social conservatives felt he was an expert on the subject because he was old and got shot down multiple times in Nam.

Here second big weakness is that she's a woman, and when the conditions are right for GOP pol to win the Presidency, i. e. when another 9/11-style has occurred, the social conservatives are less likely to elect a woman than a man because they believe that "women can't fight like men."
Having listened to her resigning garble I came to nearly the same conclusion as you just posted.

Funny thing is, when I saw her picture the first time I thought it was Arnold in drag.
Seen from that point, she would IMO have no problems in a "mens world"
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Re: Sarah Palin's Gonna Resign from Her 1st Term As Governor...



Palin says Obama spending our future away, um, how many trillions for war, and Bush incompetence on economy caused this crash?
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Old 07-07-2009
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Re: Sarah Palin's Gonna Resign from Her 1st Term As Governor...

Sarah Palin resigned… this is fact.

The question is: why?

I make no claim to know.

But in reflection of this fact broadly speaking there are only two reasons fro her to have done so…

She is quitting politics… and who could blame her if it is so? Anybody else have their 14 y.o. daughter called a whore on national TV?

How about being called “one nutty puppy”

Now I take Maureen Dowd at her word… an expert in nutty puppies to be sure.

I submit to you here now… if in fact Sarah Palin has quit… and people like Dowd would be more than enough cause… if she has… then I say Palin is the sane one and that the nutty puppy is the one still on the NY/Washington political circuit.

( If you need to see both leftist narcissism, and cat fight jealousy read the whole thing… Maureen Dowd at her best/worse.)

That then would leave us with little to talk about wouldn’t it?

Oh yes… the second reason.

That she, Sarah Palin is running… maybe.

I throw that maybe in there… for again likely only she and Todd really know, and even if they are going to ‘give it a shot’ they know that while they must get really to do so… and that staying Governor till Jan 2011 would not allow for that.. that there is a long, long time till 2012.

Maybe Palin is crazy… crazy like a fox.

Take 18 months… out of the media circus. Let the kids get back to being kids… write the book (the deal is made I’m told), bed Hubby a couple of times… or a lot more. Kill and skin a moose. Have fun… recharge the batteries and the family wallet. Oh you will be back… after all there is the book tour… and speeches to give… for even more money.

If in 18 months (Nov 2010) Obama is still ‘high’ in the polling, if unemployment is going down… if the economy is growing… you can look in the camera (if there is one) and tell everyone how damn happy you all are and how it’s the best decision you and Todd ever made.

If not…

If in 18 months (Nov 2010) a true leader has come to be found… someone that not only has caught the eye of the GOP, but of the public at large… well then you can look in the camera (if there is one) and tell everyone how damn happy you all are and how it’s the best decision you and Todd ever made.

If not…

If not… if Obama is in the 40% approval range… if the economy is still in the crapper, if the GOP field is still only Romney, and Huckabee, and two other guys that none of us know.

A major speech ‘our next President must be…’ (funny who that sounds like)

A major interview… this time sounding like a ‘statesperson’

Then again… maybe not.
Then again… in 2016 Sarah Palin will only be 56 years old.
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Re: Sarah Palin's Gonna Resign from Her 1st Term As Governor...

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Having listened to her resigning garble I came to nearly the same conclusion as you just posted.

Funny thing is, when I saw her picture the first time I thought it was Arnold in drag.
Seen from that point, she would IMO have no problems in a "mens world"
Why is it, no matter what, you guys have to keep attacking her personally. Can we get an "uhhh" and "umm" count in her speech to see a comparison before we go too far with the "garble" claim? Is her point not completely validated then that she is tired of the personal attacks? I'm no fan of her political style either but you must be gay Still (not that there is anything wrong with that) because she is actually a very attractive woman. Something I don't think anyone, except you, would deny.
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Palin says Obama spending our future away, um, how many trillions for war, and Bush incompetence on economy caused this crash?
That would be none. But you would have to be paying attention and willing to take the bitter facts pill to know that.
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Re: Sarah Palin's Gonna Resign from Her 1st Term As Governor...

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Why is it, no matter what, you guys have to keep attacking her personally. Can we get an "uhhh" and "umm" count in her speech to see a comparison before we go too far with the "garble" claim? Is her point not completely validated then that she is tired of the personal attacks? I'm no fan of her political style either but you must be gay Still (not that there is anything wrong with that) because she is actually a very attractive woman. Something I don't think anyone, except you, would deny.
Telling, isn't it, that the only valid qualification that a Republican has for the nation's highest office is that the candidate be "attractive"?



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That would be none. But you would have to be paying attention and willing to take the bitter facts pill to know that.
Oh, yeh, sure...We can piss 3 trillion down a rathole with nnooo problem. Poorly conceived wars don't bankrupt nations like they have throughout history. It was a few poor people defaulting on their loans and uh...the Democrats...yeh...they're to blame
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Re: Sarah Palin's Gonna Resign from Her 1st Term As Governor...

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...because she is actually a very attractive woman. Something I don't think anyone, except you, would deny.
I don't think she's attractive overall. I also think there are two qualities that combine to determine attractiveness: internal and external. Physically, yea I'd do 'er, but I wouldn't want any long term relationship with her. She's a brainless dolt, the kind my friends would all kinda hate.
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Re: Sarah Palin's Gonna Resign from Her 1st Term As Governor...

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Telling, isn't it, that the only valid qualification that a Republican has for the nation's highest office is that the candidate be "attractive"?
I never said that so what's your point?

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Oh, yeh, sure...We can piss 3 trillion down a rathole with nnooo problem. Poorly conceived wars don't bankrupt nations like they have throughout history. It was a few poor people defaulting on their loans and uh...the Democrats...yeh...they're to blame
3 trillion? you got a link to that? And there were more than a few poor people who defaulted. Exaggerate the cost of the war, minimize the real problem...what else do you want to make up John? I'll say this again. Respond if you dare. Obama told us in his speeches it was the sub prime mortgage market that caused the economy to tumble. So how do you know otherwise?

Here's the timeline:

2004: U.S. homeownership rate peaks with an all time high of 69.2 percent.

Following example of Countrywide Financial, the largest U.S. mortgage lender, many lenders adopt automated loan approvals that critics argued were not subjected to appropriate review and documentation according to good mortgage underwriting standards.

HUD ratcheted up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac affordable-housing goals for next four years, from 50 percent to 56 percent, stating they lagged behind the private market; they purchased $175 billion in 2004—44 percent of the market; from 2004 to 2006, they purchased $434 billion in securities backed by subprime loans

2005:
January: Federal Reserve Governor Edward Gramlich raises concerns over subprime lending practices, says mortgage brokers might not have incentives for careful underwriting and that that portion of the subprime industry was veering close to a breakdown, that it's possible that it is a bubble but that the housing market did not qualify for specific monetary policy treatment at this point.
February: The Office of Thrift Supervision implements new rules that allow savings and loans with over $1 billion in assets to meet their CRA obligations without investing in local communities, cutting availability of subprime loans.
Fall 2005: Booming housing market halts abruptly; from the fourth quarter of 2005 to the first quarter of 2006, median prices nationwide drop 3.3 percent.

2006:
May: The subprime lender Ameriquest announces it will cut 3,800 Jobs, close its 229 retail branches and rely instead on the Web
May: Merit Financial Inc, based in Kirkland, Washington, files for bankruptcy and closes its doors, firing all but 80 of its 410 employees; Merit’s marketplace decline about 40% and sales are not bringing in enough revenue to support overhead.
August: U.S. Home Construction Index is down over 40% as of mid-August 2006 compared to a year earlier.

2007 In 2007, 40% of all subprime loans resulted from automated underwriting. Mortgage fraud by borrowers increases.
Home sales continue to fall. The plunge in existing-home sales is the steepest since 1989. In Q1/2007, S&P/Case-Shiller house price index records first year-over-year decline in nationwide house prices since 1991.

The subprime mortgage industry collapses, and a surge of foreclosure activity (twice as bad as 2006) and rising interest rates threaten to depress prices further as problems in the subprime markets spread to the near-prime and prime mortgage markets.
2007
January 3: Ownit Mortgage Solutions Inc. files for Chapter 11. Records show that Ownit Mortgage Solutions owed Merrill Lynch around $93 million at the time of filing.
February 5: Mortgage Lenders Network USA Inc., the country's 15th largest subprime lender with $3.3 billion in loans funded in third quarter 2006, files for Chapter 11.
February–March: Subprime industry collapse; several subprime lenders declaring bankruptcy, announcing significant losses, or putting themselves up for sale. These include Accredited Home Lenders Holding, New Century Financial, DR Horton and Countrywide Financial
March: The value of USA subprime mortgages was estimated at $1.3 trillion as of March 2007.
March 6: In a speech before the Independent Community Bankers of America's Annual Convention and Techworld, Honolulu, Hawaii, Ben Bernanke, quoting Alan Greenspan, warns that the Government Sponsored Enterprises (GSEs), Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, were a source of "systemic risk" and suggest legislation to head off a possible crisis
April 2: New Century Financial, largest U.S. subprime lender, files for chapter 11 bankruptcy.
April 3: According to CNN Money, business sources report lenders made $640 billion in subprime loans in 2006, nearly twice the level 3 years earlier; subprime loans amounted to about 20 percent of the nation's mortgage lending and about 17 percent of home purchases; financial firms and hedge funds likely own more than $1 trillion in securities backed by subprime mortgage; about 13 percent of subprime loans are now delinquent, more than five times the delinquency rate for home loans to borrowers with top credit; more than 2 percent of subprime loans had foreclosure proceedings start in the fourth quarter.
April 18: Freddie Mac fined $3.8 million by the Federal Election Commission as a result of illegal campaign contributions, much of it to members of the United States House Committee on Financial Services which oversees Freddie Mac

Now even Katie and Brian will tell you the economy went into recession in December of 2007. Doesn't seem like the timeline is just a coincidence to me.

*sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread.*
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Re: Sarah Palin's Gonna Resign from Her 1st Term As Governor...

stolen from Roger Stone (link has gone nuts stonezone.com)

It goes on if you can get it to appear but this does kind of say it...

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stolen from Roger Stone (link has gone nuts stonezone.com)

It goes on if you can get it to appear but this does kind of say it...
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"You won't have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore because, gentlemen, this is my last press conference." Six years later he was inaugurated as President of the United States.
Assuming this is correct, it's more confirmation that Nixon was a two-faced liar who deserved all the scorn thrown at him.
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