What I have read is that the planets show no solar increase at all.
The Martian poles shift rapidly for unknown reasons, not related to solar output.
We know exactly what the solar output is.
We monitor is precisely.
That is because it effects satellites, radio, etc.
We would never use planets more distant from the sun then we are, as solar output indicators.

No, the Earth has not cooled over the last 3 years.
It is only that some are confused because 1998 was an exceptionally high spike. We are not cooling, but the melting of the Arctic ice has made the rise appear to slow some.

Are you still laughing?Can you expand on how this is violence?

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That's utter and complete BS. Did you not look at the archive I linked you to?
Greenpiece produces a ton of television ads, and also uses print medium extensively.

If these "volunteers" are official representatives of GP, why would they need to purchase anything? Do you think they paid for that very expensive banner, and the cost associated with placing it? Not!

C'mon now, you hafta know you're full of shit, right? You just do this to get under our skin right? Well, take heart in knowing that you do get under my skin a little, but at the same time, I enjoy the debate.

Also know, that I don't generally take any of this stuff personally, it's all in good fun. Don't get me wrong, I take everything I say very seriously, and mean all of it. I just don't have any personal animosity toward you Maat. Ok?

Alright, enough touchy/feely, onward and upward!

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They drove a piton into Lincoln's hair, that's just wrong man.

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It's similar to how Buzz Aldrin violently raped the moon.

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You have to remember the liberals are fucked up, they will throw around the word "right-wing terrorist" or "extremist" all over a tea party but they will fully excuse or justify blatant acts of violence and property destruction by their own ilk.

Anyone remember the RNCWC in St Paul?

Remember when those fucking bastards destroyed small mom and pop stores because they hated republicans?

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Of course you have, I have read the same thing but at the same time I'm objective and liberals aren't. They want to hear what they believe to be true and anything other then that is 'stupidity.'

I can tell you right now that sun spots and or solar (being one in the same) activity is the direct cause of warming and cooling. No but libs want to believe otherwise, that man is the problem.

I can prove to anyone mans not the problem by pointing to volcano eruptions. A Mt St Helens size eruption spews more pollution into the atmosphere then humans have created since the industrial revolution.

Now, its quite easy to see that this 'man made global warming' issue is nothing more then a ploy by the leftist pukes to attack and control corporate America and to expand government via shit like cap and trade.

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I think that's Neil Armstrong's raping of the moon footprint. But they are both just as guilty.

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American by birth.
Conservative by the grace of God.

Still sore about the war of northern aggression.

Actually I find that ironically funny...

Goofy, probably pointless given the stupidity of many of the comments on here by the Climate Change denier's faithful chorus, but definately not terrorism or defacing of the National Monument. I mean it is a mountain of granite and unless they chip lincoln's nose off you wouldnt be able to tell if there was one or a hundred piton marks on there. Hell weathering probably des as much if not more damage each year than what happened with this.

And actually after doing some research I discovered that they didnt even drive a single piton at all. They used ones the US Park Service themselves had already driven in...

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and to the topic on hand...

they drove a piton into Lincolns hair, they should have a piton driven into every car , television and computer they have the rest of their lives.

"Stop sunspots!"

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*sigh* Greenpeace did not drive the piton the United States Park Service aka an organization that is part of the United States Federal Government drove the piton. All the greenpeace activists are being charged with is misdemeanor tresspassing which is all they did. Anyone who calls this terrorism is a nutjob. People need to stop over reacting.

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Greenpeace has been around for over 30 years, so in their archives they should have a lot of commercials and such.
But that is not like what a profit making company would spend on advertising.
A company like McDonalds probably spends more on advertisingin an hour, then Greenpeace has ever spent in its entire existence.

I am curious where you think Greenpeace would be getting all this money from?
They do sell bumper stickers and such, but you can't think they really make much off of that?
Or do you think they are funded by some sinister foreign agents or something?
I just don't get it?
Isn't it obvious that they are funded by contributions from concerned individuals, and therefore have no other vested interests?

It is easy to show global warming is not solar driven.
Here is a graph of solar activity, which drives sunspots.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Fea...er_1611_rt.gif

What you see is a very regular 11 year cycle.
Solar activity is always very regular, as far as we know.
But there is no 11 cycle to global warming.
It is moderated by large thermal mass like the oceans.
And the changes in gobal warming is accelerating much faster than any solar activity could possibly explain.

And volcano eruptions can not cause global warming, because although they do release tons of CO2, they release even more cooling particulates and aerosols. The CO2 will retain more heat, but the particulates reflect and block more solar heat then the extra CO2 can absorb. So that is why volcanic eruptions always cause a net cooling.
But the fact a single volcano can cause the entire earth to cool a few degrees for several years, you make you see why all the cars, factory chimneys, etc., can cause warming over a century.

The particles spewed from a volcano will settle out fairly quickly.
But the additional CO2 and greenhouse gases continue to accumulate from one year to the next.
We have increased the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere by nearly a third.