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Old 07-13-2009
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Re: Yuppie water loosing favor good.

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we agree it's more convenient
Convenient is not always good. It would be conveninet for me to walk into a sotore and walk back out without bothering to go throuhg the checkout but that would be wrong. It would be convenient for me to take a dump whereever I happened to be like an animal but that would not be good. Convenient does not always equal good. Sometimes being inconvenient is better. Sometimes convenient equals lazy.

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Just because your demand doesn't concern money doesn't mean you don't profit.
And because it doesnt involve money doesnt put it down on the same filthy level as the profiteering companies and other capitalist scum.

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And all the water companies are demanding is the basic respect and decency that they should get, by being paid, for bring convenience and water to the masses
Oh BS they are a company and like all capitalist based companies all they care about is making a profit by raping, tricking or otherwise screwing over anyone and everyone they can.

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Well, seeing as you are beneath me, I guess I'll jusy continue to buy bottled water...
There you go with that smug attitude again. First you make a snide comment when I mention I shop at family dollar and now this. Well just because you have more money does not make you a better human being than me and does not put me benath you however much you might like that.

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Like what law?
The one I originally posted about and the ones that will hopefully follow.

And Matt are you going to tell off steve for treating me liek I'm dirt beneath him just because he has more money? Of course not thats because to all republicans and capitalists anyone who is poor must be poor because they are lazy worthless trash scum who deserve it. When someone like me who is trying to advocate for more social and wealth equality speaks in this country they get treated like scum but we will win out over the forces of evil and darkness. Things will get better.

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If that is your expectation, I think you may have chosen the wrong discussion forum!
So I've noticed. There are a lot of selfish greedy self centered egotistical capitalist scum around here. But sometimes the forces of good and light must walk among the darkness to try and save them.
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Old 07-13-2009
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Re: Yuppie water loosing favor good.

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How's the kopi luwac this morning Steve?
As much as I love coffee, no thank you...
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Old 07-13-2009
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Re: Yuppie water loosing favor good.

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There you go with that smug attitude again. First you make a snide comment when I mention I shop at family dollar and now this. Well just because you have more money does not make you a better human being than me and does not put me benath you however much you might like that.
You're right.

I shouldn't have said you were beneath me because you shop at a dollar store.

There are, after all, so many other reasons why you're beneath me...

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And Matt are you going to tell off steve for treating me liek I'm dirt beneath him just because he has more money?


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There are a lot of selfish greedy self centered egotistical capitalist scum around here.
Someone buys a bottle of water and they're "selfish greedy self centered egotistical capitalist scum"?

That's funny.

It's retarded, but it's funny...

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But sometimes the forces of good and light must walk among the darkness to try and save them.
Well, when they show up, do be kind enough to let us know...
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Old 07-13-2009
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Re: Yuppie water loosing favor good.

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Convenient is not always good. It would be conveninet for me to walk into a sotore and walk back out without bothering to go throuhg the checkout but that would be wrong.
Well, Steve wasn't talking about stealing water. In fact, your concern was that people are getting screwed over by overpriced water. However, Steve already told you he doesn't mind paying for convenience. Then, to try and salvage your argument, you said that it was also convenient to use your own canteen, but you finally agreed that it is more convenient to buy bottles for some people. So, problem solved.
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It would be convenient for me to take a dump whereever I happened to be like an animal but that would not be good. Convenient does not always equal good. Sometimes being inconvenient is better. Sometimes convenient equals lazy.
Well, if your only issue with it is Steve's avoiding getting screwed over by high prices, then you need not worry. Steve knows what he's doing and he likes it.
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And because it doesnt involve money doesnt put it down on the same filthy level as the profiteering companies and other capitalist scum.
Money is just paper used to buy goods and services. It really is only useful when direct bartering is impossible. However, you barter your good of water for their service of exchanging kind words.
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Oh BS they are a company and like all capitalist based companies all they care about is making a profit by raping, tricking or otherwise screwing over anyone and everyone they can.
That's simply not true and Steve demonstrated this to you. He knows he can fill up at the tap and he knows what you posted about the companies. Still, he doesn't mind paying for the extra convenience. Thus, no trickery is involved in the transaction between Steve and the bottler. You just have it out for people who make monetary profits rather than simply barter-based profits. Why? Because you engage in the latter. You want to elevate yourself by hurting the others.
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There you go with that smug attitude again. First you make a snide comment when I mention I shop at family dollar and now this. Well just because you have more money does not make you a better human being than me and does not put me benath you however much you might like that.

The one I originally posted about and the ones that will hopefully follow.
Yes, we know, you want to hurt everyone who doesn't have a well. Like a gasoline dealer who wants to ban all alternative fuels.
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And Matt are you going to tell off steve for treating me liek I'm dirt beneath him just because he has more money? Of course not thats because to all republicans and capitalists anyone who is poor must be poor because they are lazy worthless trash scum who deserve it. When someone like me who is trying to advocate for more social and wealth equality speaks in this country they get treated like scum but we will win out over the forces of evil and darkness. Things will get better.
Quit pretending to care about the poor. You're still wasting time online instead of selling the computer to feed a starving African. It's rather clear what you're doing. You are a certain level of wealth. You don't like it, so you adopt some kind of "do it for the poor" mantra to try and hurt the wealthier, bringing them down to your level (since you don't have the ability to rise to their level). But, since you don't want to hurt yourself, you make sure your mantra only applies to those wealthier than you.
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So I've noticed. There are a lot of selfish greedy self centered egotistical capitalist scum around here. But sometimes the forces of good and light must walk among the darkness to try and save them.
Like you're saving those starving Africans by selling your computer and canceling your ISP account?
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Old 07-13-2009
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Re: Yuppie water loosing favor good.

It doesn't surprise me that people buy bottled water when people actually pay to decorate their house literally with SHIT: Link to Ludicrousy
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Old 07-13-2009
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Re: Yuppie water loosing favor good.

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That sounds like an absolutely ridiculous ban, if you ask me. I'm not a huge fan of bottled water, either, but if people want to buy it, they should have the option available to them.
Yep. Free market.

Surely if a ShamWow should be a legitimately sold product if people want to buy it, so should certifiably clean drinking water.

I would also think that bottled water in an arid country might be a wise contingency idea. I live near a lake and have city plumbing, but we still have a few gallons of bottled water in the basement just in case.
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Old 07-13-2009
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Re: Yuppie water loosing favor good.

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Yep. Free market.

Surely if a ShamWow should be a legitimately sold product if people want to buy it, so should certifiably clean drinking water.

I would also think that bottled water in an arid country might be a wise contingency idea. I live near a lake and have city plumbing, but we still have a few gallons of bottled water in the basement just in case.
Rahmota doesn't give a shit about others. He has a well, so it's all good. And anyone who doesn't can either grovel at his feet for a drink or die.
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Old 07-13-2009
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Re: Yuppie water loosing favor good.

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The only thing I demand is the same basic respect and decency that should be shown to any other brother or sister of humanity.
May I suggest that before you demand this of others, you actually practice it yourself?

You are one of the most disrespectful and indecent individuals I have ever had the displeasure to deal with.
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Old 07-13-2009
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Re: Yuppie water loosing favor good.

Fine whatever. You poeple are indulgin in the usual republican side step evade and villify the messenger instead of actually talking about the problem or the situation at hand. Personal attacks on me and snide rude comments are all fine and dandy when its omeone who isnt on the republican right wing capitalist rape plundar pillage bandwagon. Fine fuck it. I'm done with this thread as you're just perverting and twisting everythign I say around to attack me. I never said naythign you said I did Slon. You are putting words in my mouth and interpretting my attitude and point of view into somethign stupid and evil that I never intended or said or implied even.

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Re: Yuppie water loosing favor good.

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Fine whatever. You poeple are indulgin in the usual republican side step evade and villify the messenger instead of actually talking about the problem or the situation at hand. Personal attacks on me and snide rude comments are all fine and dandy when its omeone who isnt on the republican right wing capitalist rape plundar pillage bandwagon. Fine fuck it. I'm done with this thread as you're just perverting and twisting everythign I say around to attack me. I never said naythign you said I did Slon. You are putting words in my mouth and interpretting my attitude and point of view into somethign stupid and evil that I never intended or said or implied even.

Shlamartonavet!
Nobody is vilifying you. We are merely calling you out on your blatant hypocrisy.

You demand that others treat you with respect, while simultaneously insulting anyone and everyone who doesn't believe as you do - usually before anyone even gets a chance to voice an opinion.

If you're offended by having your attitude questioned, that's your problem.
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Old 07-13-2009
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Re: Yuppie water loosing favor good.

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Fine whatever. You poeple are indulgin in the usual republican side step evade and villify the messenger instead of actually talking about the problem or the situation at hand. Personal attacks on me and snide rude comments are all fine and dandy when its omeone who isnt on the republican right wing capitalist rape plundar pillage bandwagon.
I guess calling someone a rapist, plunderer and pillager does not count as "rude comments."
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Fine fuck it. I'm done with this thread as you're just perverting and twisting everythign I say around to attack me. I never said naythign you said I did Slon.
Here is what I said you said: "your concern was that people are getting screwed over by overpriced water"

and here is what you said: "Its water it should not cost people an arm and a leg for clean fresh drinking water. It should be free or at an extremely low cost. If it has to be sold it should be sold at the maximum legal price of 25 cents per gallon. No profit should be permitted." and "You mean the connecting to the municipal tap water and printing up a fancy package and tricking and lying to people making them think they are drinking something other than regular ol tap water they can get from their municipal source"

So yes, you did say it.
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You are putting words in my mouth and interpretting my attitude and point of view into somethign stupid and evil that I never intended or said or implied even.

Shlamartonavet!
Much of your behavior is borderline hypocritical. And your complaints about putting words in your mouth are unfounded.
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Old 07-14-2009
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Re: Yuppie water loosing favor good.

What the frak are you talkign about hypocrisy? You wanna see hypocrisy look in the mirror or look at the republican party. Lets all have fmaily vazlues and morals whiel they are off diddling young boys or flying off to south america to get a booty call.

I am doing the best I can with what I got. I pay 10 bucks a month for dial up and got the computer for free when my friend got a new one. I work my ass off when there is work to be had otherwise i work around home and take care of my family. I am trying to find a job with a stable company until i can finish my degree and get somethign in the social work field. So dont call me lazy and dont say I could be doing more. You sure aint walking a mile in my shoes you know.

I am an advocate for social and economic equality and fairness and you cant stand that. So instead of taking a good hard look at the inequities of america and the capitalist system and doing somethign about them, the real problem in this country. You sit on your smug asses and villify anyone who has the temerity to say anythign negative about the american dream. Well get over it the american dream is a lie there is no cake and socail and economic equality is a joke as people are kept down and oppressed unless they are of the right social class. The opportunites in this country are far and few between for someone to actually work their way out of poverty without some kind of assistence from the govt.

As for tellign me to sell my computer and get offline thats just another way of trying to silence someone who is saying hard truths you dont wanna hear.

This is a sick and disgusting country that is heading for a major fall. The poor of this nation will eventually get sick and tired of being walked all over and rise up and do somethign about it. Thats one reason why the democrats won last year.
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Re: Yuppie water loosing favor good.

Hi, new here, just wanted to throw in my 2 cents...

For some people, bottled water is a necessity. I live about 5 miles on the outskirts of NOWHERE, and have no access to municipal water. We just moved out here, so had to dig a new well. Because it is new, it is filled with sediment. It's been tested, and won't kill you, but it's disgusting to drink. We have a filter on the well and the faucet, but it's still gross. Eventually, all the sediment will be gone and we'll have great water (hey, maybe I can start selling it! J/K), but for the time being, if we don't have bottled drinking water, we have no potable water at all.

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The opportunites in this country are far and few between for someone to actually work their way out of poverty without some kind of assistence from the govt.
Bullshit Rahmota. Plenty of people have done it. It's harder for them because they have to deal with the fact that they don't have the support system (family) that encourages their growth. That's not America's fault. The opportunity is there and there's plenty of assistance.

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This is a sick and disgusting country that is heading for a major fall. The poor of this nation will eventually get sick and tired of being walked all over and rise up and do somethign about it. Thats one reason why the democrats won last year.
I don't think that will happen. They are not willing to do anything about their situation now when they already have the opportunity. The only way they will rise up is when the govt teet stops giving milk. Are you saying the Dems won because they promised more handouts?
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Re: Yuppie water loosing favor good.

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What the frak are you talkign about hypocrisy?
It's been explained to you in detail.
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You wanna see hypocrisy look in the mirror or look at the republican party.
I've already gotten enough of it from reading your posts.
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Lets all have fmaily vazlues and morals whiel they are off diddling young boys or flying off to south america to get a booty call.
Are you done with your ridiculous partisan rant?
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I am doing the best I can with what I got. I pay 10 bucks a month for dial up and got the computer for free when my friend got a new one.
You can sell it and save $10 a month. It adds up, trust me.
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I work my ass off when there is work to be had otherwise i work around home and take care of my family. I am trying to find a job with a stable company until i can finish my degree and get somethign in the social work field. So dont call me lazy and dont say I could be doing more. You sure aint walking a mile in my shoes you know.
You could be doing more. You just pointed it out. You're working as hard as you can to get as much money, goods and services as you can, but you're mostly unsuccessful, it seems. So what do you do? You advocate for laws that force those more successful than you to suffer.
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I am an advocate for social and economic equality and fairness and you cant stand that.
When it involves arrogant demands that we stop buying bottled water? Yes.
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So instead of taking a good hard look at the inequities of america
America has inequities because people are not equal. They are equal, at birth, in the eyes of the law (for the most part), but the fact of the matter is that most people are dumbasses.
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and the capitalist system and doing somethign about them, the real problem in this country. You sit on your smug asses and villify anyone who has the temerity to say anythign negative about the american dream.
Yes, I enjoy shooting down the arguments of presumptuous, arrogant, hypocritical liberals.
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Well get over it the american dream is a lie there is no cake and socail and economic equality is a joke as people are kept down and oppressed unless they are of the right social class. The opportunites in this country are far and few between for someone to actually work their way out of poverty without some kind of assistence from the govt.

As for tellign me to sell my computer and get offline thats just another way of trying to silence someone who is saying hard truths you dont wanna hear.
I don't really care if you keep whining on here. More cannon fodder for my replies. I'm simply pointing out your hypocrisy, that's all.
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This is a sick and disgusting country that is heading for a major fall. The poor of this nation will eventually get sick and tired of being walked all over and rise up and do somethign about it. Thats one reason why the democrats won last year.
Democrats won because they had a more skilled liar.
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