How would you know?

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January 21, 2013: The End of an ERROR.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
"The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself."
---Benjamin Franklin

its not that hard to tell

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

There is no place or time for discrimination in this country. And I contend that the social experiment in the military is the policy of Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Don't Ask, Don't Tell, creates an environment of discrimination.

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"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."

-Thomas Jefferson

That's funny as Sacha Baron Cohen isn't gay.

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"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."

-Thomas Jefferson

but even he knows how it looks.

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

For the sake of argument , lets say the answer to that quesion is no. All well and good right? Afraid not, the REALITY of it is that the hetro majority will or would treat these gays differently and it would lead to all kinds of shit, none of which revolves around keeping the USA safe. I could see it now........I was passed over for promotion because I am openly gay........I am filing suit because my fellow soldiers are dogging me about being openly gay and the CO won't do shit about it, he hates gays too, blah, blah, blah. and so on

DA-DT should remain intact. The homo community would just LOVE a chance to use the military as another battleground for trying to force acceptance of their deviate sexual lifestyle as "normal", which it is not.

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The only blah blah blah here is in your rather fanciful imagination. How often does that happen nowadays, with minorities and/or women?You seem to fear the fact that you cling to this anachronism, and that your fellow, patriotic citizens seeks only to be able to serve in the armed services with the exact same rights as everyone else.

As far as what sexuality is 'deviate' or not, that's utterly irrelevant. If sexual proclivities lead to such actions that cause order and/or preparedness and moral to be suspect, whether the individual causing them is fucking around with the same gender or the opposite, they are dealt with.

Your fantasy house of cards is funny. Must suck to live your life in such cringing fear.

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All things serve The Beam

So why are you in favor of protecting one sexual "deviant" and not another?Then that is a problem with the "hetero majority." There are plenty of things "the majority" can get unnecessarily angry about. Jews, hispanics, etc... Both are often very difficult to identify by appearance, like gays. Should we have a DADT policy for them?That's funny, because neither does Iraq or much of anything that the US military is currently involved in. That said, let's also ban all forms of recreation in the military. If someone isn't training, sleeping, eating, shitting or dead (and maybe a few others), then they shouldn't be allowed to do it.But again, this could be said of jews and other "minorities" whose races cannot be distinguished on sight. And then there are those whose race can be distinguished most of the time, like blacks. If you don't like lawsuits by underlings against superiors, regardless of legitimacy, then argue to ban them across the board. Or are you suggesting we should ban lawsuits that are legitimate because the target is gay and the violator whose actions made the military less efficient is an intolerant prick?Your personal fears that you wet your bed over do not qualify as a good argument. Sorry.

thx for that first hand experireance and woefully short window into effect and affect.

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"The captain has turned off the `No Dubbing' sign. You are free to speak any language you choose."

Please put that into English. It's not at all clear on what your saying.

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All things serve The Beam

There's nothing deviant about their lifestyle. It's quite normal, maybe not for you, but it is quite normal for homosexuals. It may not be acceptable to you, but that doesn't make it deviant behavior. You seem to be insisting you have the moral high ground which justifies your prejudice. Nothing can justify your prejudice, ignorance can explain it, but nothing can justify it.

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"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."

-Thomas Jefferson

And what you think homosexuals go around dressed up for pride day, every day?

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"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."

-Thomas Jefferson

Technically, he is correct. It is not normal to be gay. It is also not normal to be black in America. The "norm" is usually that which is practiced by the majority or by a major group. Something that is not practiced by the many is not normal. There is also the definition of "deviant" that refers to something that is not societally accepted.

In other words, his argument is one or two of the following:

1. We should not accept them because their behavior is not that which is practiced by the majority.
2. We should not accept them because we do not accept them currently.

And by "not accept" he means we should ban them or heavily restrict them from government-funded services for which they have to pay, anyway.

I have not yet determined the uncanny degree of stupidity of the position from which he argues. That will depend on the answer. Is it only 1, only 2, or both 1 and 2? Is the position (in no particular order): uncannily stupid? incredibly stupid? combination?

1. I don't think I said I wanted to protect any sexual wierdo's, so you fabricated that.
2. The majority is never the one with the problem, is the majority crying to the prez about gays?
3. If you can't grasp it, don't grab at it.
4. You got it! End all the bullshit "I am so oppressed" lawsuits, Amen !
5. Wet the bed over it? Listen Jackson, In my rural life situation,gays don't touch my life. The worst thing I have seen around here is the big ol dyke that works at the hardware and prentends to be Mr. Man.
I have no gay friends, neighbors, customers, employees, etc. I just see this twisted off shit on TV.........the snuggie blanket commercials are as likely to make me "wet the bed", but nice try.

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Own a Websters dictionary?

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