Which states are fully legal??--I haven't seen that yet? We have 13 states that permit the use of "medical marijuana"--some have issued a decrimialization with possession of less that 1 ounce--that they would still consider a misdeamenor.

I don't know of any fully legal states?

This is another thing that I completely agree with Obama on--which I don't find too many others. We don't need to be spending billions on drug enforcement chasing down home growers & medical marijuana dispensories--& all this time & money spent when we have drug lords selling Crack-cocaine--meth--& heroin.

California within 5 years, yeah, I suppose that's possible.

Ah, but legal marijuana would only be the first step in legalizing all drugs, and there are jobs at stake there. And you still have to get past all of the hand-wringing mothers, and the drug companies.

Actually, I was thinking more about the tail end of things, at incarceration. If our prisons are "half full" (ficticious number) of marijuana offenders, legalizing it would mean we only need half as many prisons, half as many prison guards, etc...

I'm just kinda thinking out loud on all of this, I have no real numbers. Also, I know that many in law enforcement are for legalization. I guess I just find it hard to believe that marijuana will ever be legal. When you've been wishing for something for decades with no results, it's kinda hard to believe your wish will ever come true.

Kind of crazy how an over expansive government is preventing such logical change in our system.

Some parts of the government are going to be very much against legalization, because they'll loose their jobs (obviously). Check out the bullshit "Summary of the Top Ten Facts on Legalization" from our DEA: Speaking Out Against Drug Legalization. They don't seem too keen on the idea.

The problem is law enforcement. You know they like to make "easy" busts. You walk into a legal dispensory--& whooa this guy is growing too much for the medical marijuana cards he has--it's easy. They know they're walking into an establishment that is probably not going to have someone shooting at them. The same with home growers. They can make the bust--score some browny points--& have no fear.

Now take that same circumstance--walking into a meth--crack--cocaine--or heroin dealer & the situation for the safety of law enforcement dramatically changes.

In Canada--they dedicate 500 hundred million per year for the DEA up there. They spend 400 million of it chasing down marijuana growers--LOL

I was being sarcastic.

I knew that. I was agreeing with you.

Got ya

they aren't. i was predicting that in 1-5 years the current medical states will be full legal and the non medical will have medical. this was in response to jefes question.

This is great news. One more step in the right direction for society.

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yeah sorry, i just don't see meth or crack ever getting legalized. heroine or coke either. whether you go from a states rights perspective or not, i just don't see it happening. i wouldn't worry too much about it.

Actually, I'd much rather all of it be legalized, and I'm not worried about anything. Most of the arguments for legalizing marijuana apply to all the rest as well.

I feel an attack of glaucoma coming on.

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Well lemme see here we're on the 3rd president that has smoked dope( gotta call BS on "not inhaling", and there is very little doubt about Bush) and I do believe that crosses both party lines. There are plenty of ex cops who support legalization of pot (probably lotsa of working cops who just keep their mouth shut). You can find support in both political parties so what's the problem?

There is absolutely no way I will ever be convinced that pot is anywhere near as dangerous as alcohol, though I make no claim that it is harmless. So why do we spend billions to stop what can be found on any street in the US? There is hardly a bigger failure in American history than the "war on drugs" so why does this continue?

so meth is suddenly not harmful? when did that happen?