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Why wouldn't it be legal to grow your own?
it would, with a tax payment. just like its legal to make your own hooch if you pay for it. otherwise its called moonshining and you get a case
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Why? If someone wants to get all tweaked I don't care.

I'm confused a little for including heroine on your list. I'm no drug expert, but isn't heroine the most natural illegal drug you can take and the most safe if taken in small doses (obviously the addictive nature and the increased tolerance are the biggest problems with the drug, I'm aware of that)?
pardon? natural? you have to cook and refine it. no. safe? FUCK NO.


i'd say pot is the most natural illegal drug and the most safe no matter the dose. and the least addictive.
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I think makers of good beer and liquor will be OK. It's the people who make the crappy stuff that will suffer. The only reason people buy things like big bear 40s or bud is that it's a relatively cheap buzz. If they can blow a joint and drink iced tea instead or have a brownie and a glass of milk they'll go for it. People who actually like beer or, say, scotch, will still be willing to shell out for Ommegang or Laphroaig but brands like miller lite and johnnie walker red will suffer.
um ever smoked a fat blunt and drank a 40 of olde english? its the bees knees. not gonna go away. sides, somepeople don't like pot!
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Why should those drugs remain illegal, but the rest can be made legal? I don't understand the problem with just ending the War on Drugs.
honestly? candidly? if you don't seperate pot from the others itll never get legalized. because then the "think of the children" argument will have some sway. because meth and heroine and crack are pretty fucked up. and coke aint hardly better.
and since i only use pot, well candidly, its the only one i give a fuck about at least short term. if you seperate them out, slowly one by one its possible. but i definietly don't see it all happening at once. thats a pipe dream.
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honestly? candidly? if you don't seperate pot from the others itll never get legalized. because then the "think of the children" argument will have some sway. because meth and heroine and crack are pretty fucked up. and coke aint hardly better.
and since i only use pot, well candidly, its the only one i give a fuck about at least short term. if you seperate them out, slowly one by one its possible. but i definietly don't see it all happening at once. thats a pipe dream.
When I was a teenager it was easier to obtain illegal drugs than legal ones. My kids tell me it's the same story now. So the "think of the children" argument is just as bogus as the rest. I know most people don't realize that but some day maybe it will be so obvious that it can no longer be ignored.
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um ever smoked a fat blunt and drank a 40 of olde english? its the bees knees. not gonna go away. sides, somepeople don't like pot!
I've done some pretty disgusting things.I even drank part of a can of Iron City beer once. But I've never drunk a 40 of olde english.
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When I was a teenager it was easier to obtain illegal drugs than legal ones. My kids tell me it's the same story now. So the "think of the children" argument is just as bogus as the rest. I know most people don't realize that but some day maybe it will be so obvious that it can no longer be ignored.
its still true today. i could get coke faster than a bottle of beer.


the thing is its illegal. as in DON"T DO IT. if its legal, its accepted. i don't know how i feel about saying to my son when he hits 18 : ok boy youre 18. go register to vote, buy a lottery ticket, then were gonna pick up a big bag of meth and hit the tittie bar.
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I've done some pretty disgusting things.I even drank part of a can of Iron City beer once. But I've never drunk a 40 of olde english.
iron city = piss.


oe= delicious nectar of the ghetto gods. trust me its good. and one is really all you need for a nice strong (but not too strong) buzz.
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its still true today. i could get coke faster than a bottle of beer.


the thing is its illegal. as in DON"T DO IT. if its legal, its accepted. i don't know how i feel about saying to my son when he hits 18 : ok boy youre 18. go register to vote, buy a lottery ticket, then were gonna pick up a big bag of meth and hit the tittie bar.
But that's just it. "Legal" is determined by our govenment. "Acceptable" is determined by us. I determine what's acceptable for my kids and you determine what's acceptable for yours. Maybe we're succesful and our kids stay away from really dangerouos drugs. Maybe they don't abuse the less dangerous ones. Maybe they also don't drive the car 100 mph and run into a tree. Maybe they don't smoke cigarrettes and die of cancer or emphysema. Maybe they don't go to the titty bar and get aids. Kids will do dangerous things like taking dangerous drugs. Some will become addicted and some will have accidental ODs and some will say "holy shit that stuff is nasty" and leave it alone. But those kids will do those things no matter what the law says and only their upbringing can shade their behaviour one way or the other.
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But that's just it. "Legal" is determined by our govenment. "Acceptable" is determined by us. I determine what's acceptable for my kids and you determine what's acceptable for yours. Maybe we're succesful and our kids stay away from really dangerouos drugs. Maybe they don't abuse the less dangerous ones. Maybe they also don't drive the car 100 mph and run into a tree. Maybe they don't smoke cigarrettes and die of cancer or emphysema. Maybe they don't go to the titty bar and get aids. Kids will do dangerous things like taking dangerous drugs. Some will become addicted and some will have accidental ODs and some will say "holy shit that stuff is nasty" and leave it alone. But those kids will do those things no matter what the law says and only their upbringing can shade their behaviour one way or the other.
still wouldn't vote for it. just like most people wouldn't. which is why i'd like to keep them seperate and take baby steps.
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pardon? natural? you have to cook and refine it. no. safe? FUCK NO.


i'd say pot is the most natural illegal drug and the most safe no matter the dose. and the least addictive.


As I said before, I'm not a drug expert. However, IIRC, heroin is natural and the high can be the safest of any drug if you don't increase your doses. The problem comes in when you build up a tolerance and continue to increase the dose.
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As I said before, I'm not a drug expert. However, IIRC, heroin is natural and the high can be the safest of any drug if you don't increase your doses. The problem comes in when you build up a tolerance and continue to increase the dose.
dude i'm sorry but thats just not correct as i've explained. you have to cook up heroin. refine it. thats not a natural process. you pick a bud off a plant and load your pipe to smoke some pot.


you can't smoke enough pot to hurt yourself. you'd basically have to replace most of the contents of your blood with thc to die from it (which is nearly impossible to do if youre shooting up with it, much less toking)

it takes very little heroin to kill you. especially if its cut to shit. or if its super pure.
heroin is NOT natural. it is refined and changed FROM opium which is natural. and you HAVE to increase the dose. there is not a way to avoid building a tolerance with use.
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As I said before, I'm not a drug expert. However, IIRC, heroin is natural and the high can be the safest of any drug if you don't increase your doses. The problem comes in when you build up a tolerance and continue to increase the dose.
I do not think you are recalling correctly. There is nothing particularly natural about heroin. As for safety, your point about dosage is equally true of most drugs and heroin is no safer than many other drugs. Of course illegal unregulated heroin could contain all kinds of nasty stuff. That's true of any highly refined or chemically altered drug.
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Re: Feds to issue new medical marijuana policy

standard answer:

leagalize it all
get draconian on crimes committed while stoned
no limits on whatever employers want to do regarding testing. well, cant shoot those caught, just fire them

if you want to eliminate gangs and all that, give it away free
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still wouldn't vote for it. just like most people wouldn't. which is why i'd like to keep them seperate and take baby steps.
I understand that many people are ignorant of the facts about legalizing drugs. But you seem to have knowledge of the subject so why would you not vote for legalization?
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