rather its a little of both. i wouldn't mind clean needle programs (it is better than IV diseases spreading willie nilly), but i'm still not down with the H. and ive yet to see anyone that can convince me otherwise, or that has even endeavored to try.

As to legalization...

would Mr. Murphy's law apply here?

I mean, let's say marijuana is legalized. Maybe the drug dealers would get angry and attack the businesses that produce and sell it? Sounds far out, man, but think about it. If you're already a violent dude and someone takes you out of the money tree, then wouldn't you retaliate?

Further... what's to stop some heavy duty corruption in this business even if it is legal? There's all kinds of corruption with government people taking payoffs and such so here's an even bigger incentive.

Just sayin'... not necessarily a good or bad idea to legalize, but here comes a new set of problems that I can't imagine but will definitely be unleashed in one form or another by Mr. Murphy, originator of Murphy's Law, among other things.

i'm gonna buy it at the store so i don't have to worry about getting popped or growing it myself, same way i don't buy moonshine even though its cheaper.

and i don't think itll be THAT heavily taxed. same rate as alcohol or tobacco i'd think, which while heavy isn't obscene. (well yet for tobacco. its getting there)

Why would anyone try?

You've been presented with facts and refuse to consider them, so what would be the point?

why? they could just go into the pot business. all they need is a stamp which i'm sure they could pay for with what remains of their illegal drug money. besides, if i'm running a business thats making money from constant walk in sales, (liquor store, pot store, gas station) ive got a shot gun under the counter and a pistol on my hip. someone busts in with a gun i'm gonna shoot them. problem solved.

or they could just move to a harder drug, making it a more cut throat game, leading to more obvious crimes involving these drugs, making it easier to catch them because theyre rocking the boat.


what kinda corruption, can you give a specific scenario? furthermore what would make this different than other government corruption that is already combatted?

facts such as? seriously if youve got something good to say about heroin please lets hear it. i'm, no shit, all ears.

Reality,

Yeah, but if they do it legally, they would have to pay taxes and deal with regulation. They've never done that. Don't have the skill set. Don't like sharing the wealth. So, they do it the illegal way.

I'm still wondering out loud.

Sorry.

There is nothing particularly good or bad about heroin. It's an inert chemical substance.

The point is that, no shit, facts about it's legal status and the inconsistency in your position in regards to that have been presented to you and you simply blithely ignore them.

and run the risk they they did in the first place. If you catch someone doing it illegally after its legalized youve got them for alot more than possession of marijuana with intent to distribute. go ahead and lock them up. its not going to completely eliminate crime but it will help.


skill set: i thought thats what we had acorn for?

again, such as?

Are you referring to the fact that I want pot legal but don't really want heroin legal? its called an opinion dude. I don't see anything good about it that outweighs all the harm its capable of and that i've seen the effects of. If you could somehow point out something good about it, some benefit, some goal, I might be more inclined to change my opinion.

Why is it up to you? Why do you get to decide that heroin and crack is bad, yet alcohol and weed are ok. Alcohol probably causes way more deaths in this country than heroin, shouldn't we outlaw alcohol then?

You're either against this nanny state shit, or your for it. You seem to be all for it.

Because its my fucking opinion how i want to fucking vote dude. And in this hypothetical where legalizing heroin comes up for a vote, i say nay. WHY? because i haven't been given a good reason to say yes.

Again, if you could perhaps try to persuade me of your point of view instead of being derisive, perhaps i'd be more inclined to change my mind.

[QUOTE=Jefe;1552058]Really? You've never heard of anyone brewing their own beer, or making their own wine? Dude... you need more friends, lol...

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we mostly just... you know... go to the liquor store an buy it. its alot less work.

Your vote is only a single vote. And, it's evidently based on whimsical fancies relating only to your impressions of drugs at this moment.

What motivation is there to convince of whether or not to like a particular drug enough to advocate ending its prohibition? You might meet a girl that you like and discover she's into it. That appears to be a lot more likely to change your one vote than any rational argument on the matter.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

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lol... this is exactly why marijuana will never be legalized. If you can't see the hypocrisy in your stance, then there's no point in discussing it with you.