dude when i say good i don't mean anything like what youre suggesting. i mean some redeeming value or quality that legalizing it will provide. so far all ive heard is that it would be less nanny statish. while i generally think thats a good thing, its gonna take more than that for me to vote for heroin. yes i know its only one vote, but votes are important. i vote of 50 million always starts with 1.

i don't mean o shit that girl likes to shoot heroin. i bet if i shoot heroin i could get with her. YAYYYYYY heroin!! thats fucking retarded man, and quite frankly a bit offensive. besides dude i'm not really into junkies. different strokes for different folks an all but thats just not what gets my rocks off.

There is no redeeming value in legalizing marijuana either. Discussion over.

Again, this is exactly why marijuana will never be legal... at the very least, it's gonna take much longer than you think. Do you not see the hypocrisy in your stance here?

Okie dokie. When you say 'good', it means whatever you mean by 'good', tautologically. And, whatever you mean by 'good' is the basis on which your single vote will be cast. It doesn't get more arbitrary or subjective than that. I'm with Jefe - you're effectively making discussion of the matter pointless.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

Yep.

I mean, what you're saying makes sense, but... I dunno. I just don't think pot is good.

Case closed.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

'pot'
uhhhh money, coupled with harmlessness, coupled with 50% of prison pops are in for pot offenses. i see two positives and a neutral. no negatives. sounds like a good idea.


'heroin'
money, extreme physical and psychological addiction, intravenous drug use done not by trained professionals who know how to dispose of medical waste but by joe addict whos shaky cause he didn't get his fix fast enough, increase in amount of medical waste, OD deaths, increase in disease, lots of junkies running around.

i see ooo lets count them 1..2..3..4..5..6.. 6 negatives ah ah ah and count them 1............. 1 positive ah ah ah. sounds like a shitty idea.
add a clean needle program see if we can't take some of these down.
with clean needles im willing to part with the increase in disease and even willing to not be worried about joe shmoe and his needle. youve still got a large increase in medical waste, more od deaths (because face it if its legal and easily obtained more people ARE going to try it. more people try it the more will die.), more junkies running around, and the extreme addiction.
so thats 4 negatives and still only one positive. no thanks yet again.

thats my thinking about it. you can call it hypocritical or whatever you feel like, but until you balance that equation im' not gonna vote for it. its MY vote, it counts to ME.
i don't see pot and heroin in the same weight class at all man. i don't see a comparison other than that theyre both drugs. though in pots case i'd call it a "drug".

why not? can you provide specific examples? Like i have for heroin?
No? youre just being argumentative because you can't think of anything to sway my way of thinking? right.

I'm not really trying to be argumentative. You have some subjective opinion based on God knows what (it isn't logic), and you're demanding that people change your mind. I'll tell you what - I'll try to change your mind once you change mine:

Pot isn't good. Change my mind.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

Well, I see your point. But, still, pot isn't good. Change my mind. Whassa matta, can't do it?

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

I'm more than willing to discuss with you youre objections to the legalization of marijuana. What in general, and specifically do you find abhorrant or bad or undesirable about it (marijuana)? it helps to have an objection to combat if i'm to try to change your mind.

i refer you to my above post. please by all means provide an objection and I will do my best to persuade you differently.

It's my vote, and I don't think it's good.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

See NOW youre just being argumentative. When i said its my vote and i don't think its a good idea i listed specific reasons for it. Youre just being obstinate and contrary out of pure muleheaded stubborness.

Again if you could find the brain power to raise a specific objection, as i did multiple times, i would be more than willing to discuss it with you and try to persuade you to change your mind.

[hand wringing anti-pot advocate]
Pot is bad for your lungs.
It's the gateway to harder drugs.
It slows mental development in teens.
It causes laziness.
[/hand wringing anti-pot advocate]

That's just a few of the arguments I've heard over the years. Good luck convincing the nanny-staters that pot is "harmless".

You're just resorting to personal attacks because you can't change my mind. Maybe if you'd be a little nicer, you could change my mind. Pot is bad. Change my mind. Or can't you?!?

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

Umm... Smoke some?

I'm not sure what your point is.