Obama's Speech

I thought the speech was very well done, somber yet powerful. What did you guys think of it?

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I thought it was very good, myself.

Matt

I also thought it was a good speech well done. Except for Obama's reference to the shooter's religious reasons for the act.

I didn't disagree with him just that the guy hasn't even been charged yet and I wouldn't like to think the POTUS would ever be accused of prejudicing a jury pool

You know darn well his lawyer was watching and taking notes.

I'd like to see the whole thing. That link looks like it includes just part of it.

What was there, though, was very well done...

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I just read it, on the mark. Well done.

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It was definitely better than the speech he gave the day of the massacre.

Obama, Olbermann, and the other liberals in the media have been awful in their response to this tragedy. Olbermann has even been making excuses for Hasan, blaming it on him being a victim of "hate crimes". Disgusting.

Obama and the liberal media's shameful reaction to the Fort Hood tragedy

I watched Olbermann's comments on this, and what you've posted is an utter distortion of what he said and how he said it.

Predictable, but disgusting.

Good speech, excellent job from the President. (Took a lot of the Bush approach with calling Islam a peaceful religion).

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When's he going to call it a terrorist attack?

More important, whats he going to do about it?

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There's a link in the article to the actual transcript from the show last week, where he said Hasan was the victim of a hate crime. Read if for yourself.

Did you watch Monday's show? He made the same excuse. Be disgusted all you want. I guess the truth disgusts you.

Yeah we all know Hassan did it but usually the high profile criticism leads to a defense of "the jury will be biased". It doesn't fly in jury based trials though because the judge will just say that it shall be stricken from the record.

However if he is tried within the military then it will not be a jury trial and thus this argument will be used. I think Lyndie England and her lover's defense against allegations of torture were the same which is that Bush decried the behavior as heinous and appauling.

Of course if Bush hadn't done that he would have been excoriated by the left and if Obama had called Hassan the "suspected" or "alleged" killer then he would have been lambasted even more so but this time by the right.

In hindsight, that might even answer the question of why he may not be calling Hassan a terrorist.

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I didn't see the rest so I can't comment on it, but when I first heard Obama's comments on the day, he seemed really angry. The guy's an intellectual/analytical Spock type IMO, but I'm reminded of how reportedly his grandmother from who he role-modelled himself and grew up learning from (and she was a scrapper up the ladder), that there are certain things that are done and not done, tolerable and intolerable, a weigher of the aggravating and mitigating factors in things for making fair conclusions in his view, etc. And he's serious in levity as well as intensity (she advised that he has a good smile and ought to smile more, also good advice given by her).

Take his Father's Day speech to the black community about proper family values and community drives:

YouTube - Barack Obama's Speech on Father's Day

This guy just doesn't talk the talk on that--he walks the walk on it, and then expects it of the black community as standards. I especially liked the part starting around the 11th minute.

Likewise, whilst he can be understanding why people can screw up, there's a limit with him. Violent malevolent conduct is one of them, especially of this kind of horrific conduct. For example, he wants to make sure the death penalty does not result in undue vindictiveness and overindulgence at the expense of any due mitigating circumstances and miscarriages of justice thanks to reckless results (his New Testament side), etc, but to the chagrin of many liberals, he is pro-death penalty nonetheless for certain crimes, and purely for the sake of what he believes is rightful vengeance alone (his Old Testament side).

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Abolish the Death Penalty: Barack Obama and the death penalty

It's hard for me to express the kind of personality of him in print on a forum, but I think the Two Testament differing takes of God's personality of the Bible help do that. He's the type that believes in right and wrong, standards, redemption but with an expectation of earning it rather than unduly giving it, all based on right and wrong behaviours. A guy like Hasan...that is where Obama goes into a full Ten Commandments Old Testament style. His facial and body language and terse constraining remarks that day just eeked of his Old Testament side coming out against a guy like him and what he did: he violated the Codes beyond the pale, and righteous retribution in the name of the law alone awaits him.

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Yes, I did, thanks, and that's how I know that:

A. It's a distortion, and a purposeful one.
B. He was not using that incident to excuse Hasan.He hasn't made that excuse, and I wouldn't defend him if he had.

Good luck with that dishonesty.

Where did you get that idea?

He'll likely be subject to a General Court Martial which, I can assure you, consists of a jury...

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I read another post by what I assume to be a chinese person also an anti private gun ownership person asking for opinions on this event. That thread was closed when I got here with only a couple of replies citing as reason that the subject is already being discussed on another thread. I can't find that thread. I was interested in putting in my opinion on that subject, this one I'd have to semi-hijack the thread to put it in here. WHERE is thread talking about personal opinions on the murderer and what HE DID???