Thread: Like they need an excuse to round up law breakers

Illegal aliens, those who advocate them, and those who would help them, are shit-eating scumbags...

Originally Posted by sinebar

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Group aiding criminals by texting warnings of immigration sweeps I believe is a crime is it not? I mean the last I heard helping someone commit a crime makes you an accessory to the crime. But what's laughable is these people say the immigration sweeps are just an excuse to round up illegal immigrants. Well DUH! Since when do they need an excuse to enforce the fucking law.

What crime are they aiding in?

Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

What crime are they aiding in?

It is unlawful for any alien to enter into the US other than at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers. It is also unlawful to remain in the US having entered unlawfully.

See 8 U.S.C. § 1325

In addition, they may be committing obstruction of justice by interfering with the enforcement of 8 U.S.C. § 1325 by providing warning to those in violation.

Matt

Originally Posted by MattLarson

It is unlawful for any alien to enter into the US other than at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers. It is also unlawful to remain in the US having entered unlawfully.

See 8 U.S.C. § 1325

In addition, they may be committing obstruction of justice by interfering with the enforcement of 8 U.S.C. § 1325 by providing warning to those in violation.

Matt

I believe your interpretation of the law is incorrect. I'm no lawyer, so I won't stake my name on it, but I do not think that they can legally be charged with anything. Being a coyote is certainly illegal. Telling someone that the po-po is around? I doubt it.

Though I imagine being active in the underground railroad was also illegal.

Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

I believe your interpretation of the law is incorrect. I'm no lawyer, so I won't stake my name on it, but I do not think that they can legally be charged with anything. Being a coyote is certainly illegal. Telling someone that the po-po is around? I doubt it.

You might be right. I am not certain either, which is why I said they may be committing obstruction of justice.

Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

Though I imagine being active in the underground railroad was also illegal.

Completely different issue - you're no longer talking about whether the law was broken but about whether it was right to do so.

Matt

Originally Posted by MattLarson

You might be right. I am not certain either, which is why I said they may be committing obstruction of justice.

There are a lot of misconceptions about what the law actually is regarding undocumented immigration. Law enforcement agencies end up abrogating the law on a regular basis, mostly out of ignorance.

Completely different issue - you're no longer talking about whether the law was broken but about whether it was right to do so.

Matt

Well the OP apparently believes that the law was broken and it was wrong to do so. So my point is on topic.

Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

What crime are they aiding in?

evasion i would say, just off hand (the crime the illegals are commiting). that would make the people helping them evade capture (the immigration dragnets) guilty of aiding and abetting.

Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

There are a lot of misconceptions about what the law actually is regarding undocumented immigration. Law enforcement agencies end up abrogating the law on a regular basis, mostly out of ignorance.


Well the OP apparently believes that the law was broken and it was wrong to do so. So my point is on topic.

not right here though. the law is clear, getting into or remaining in the country without proper paperwork and approval, is illegal. helping someone remain in the country when you have full knowledge of their illegal status, is aiding someone in the ongoing commission of a crime. which is illegal.
Its not like you said" hey cops" at a party. Its like you called all your buddies in the area that you knew were illegals when the ICE agents showed up.
one is harmless and legal. the other while also relatively harmless in this case, is illegal.

Originally Posted by reality

not right here though. the law is clear, getting into or remaining in the country without proper paperwork and approval, is illegal. helping someone remain in the country when you have full knowledge of their illegal status, is aiding someone in the ongoing commission of a crime. which is illegal.
Its not like you said" hey cops" at a party. Its like you called all your buddies in the area that you knew were illegals when the ICE agents showed up.
one is harmless and legal. the other while also relatively harmless in this case, is illegal.

It's a common misconception that someone is in a constant state of law-breaking if they are here without documentation. The law that they broke was entering the country illegally, and that is what they are charged with, upon verification of that.

Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

What crime are they aiding in?

:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by sinebar

:rolleyes:

I didn't know rolling your eyes was a crime.


Round up the petulant teenagers!

Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

I didn't know rolling your eyes was a crime.


Round up the petulant teenagers!

Damn punk kids! Always on my lawn.

Donkey_Left:
Though I imagine being active in the underground railroad was also illegal.

In your opinion, should the boarders just be totally opened up? Should European vacationers be allowed to stay indefinetly and live as US citizens? Should the only requirement for citizenship be "just being on US soil"? Should there be any restrictions at all?