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Thread: Immigration Reform

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    Re: Immigration Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Donkey_Left View Post
    People can choose to believe you. I choose not to. It's not that complicated.
    You've made the statement that my posts support your contention that I'm a racist and a bigot. You didn't say you "choose" not to believe me, you've stated that your belief can be backed up by my posts.

    So, back up what you've said...
    Last edited by Steve; 04-22-2010 at 09:52 PM. Reason: removal of insult

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    Re: Immigration Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by smurf View Post
    Most of the illegal immigrants in this country are from somewhere south of the border. Because of this fact, you erroneously jump to the conclusion that anyone who is against illegal immigration is also a racist against Latinos. Hell, I know a woman who is against illegal immigration, and both of her parents immigrated here from Mexico, legally.

    I am against illegal immigration, and I don't care where they come from, or what their skin color is, I just want them out of the country.
    If you do not think that race plays a factor in the immigration debate, you are, perhaps, a bit naive.
    First they came for the mimes, and I did not speak out, because I was a mime.

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    Re: Immigration Reform

    Folks, I have just about had enough of the kindergarten-style bickering in this thread. One more post that is off-topic, baiting, insulting, et al, and I'm closing it down, and infracting whoever causes it! Grow up!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donkey_Left View Post
    If you do not think that race plays a factor in the immigration debate, you are, perhaps, a bit naive.
    He's naive, but I'm a racist and a bigot?

    The only one injecting race into this discussion is you. People like Smurf and me don't give a fuck what someone's race is. Only you do...

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    Re: Immigration Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    He's naive, but I'm a racist and a bigot?

    The only one injecting race into this discussion is you. People like Smurf and me don't give a fuck what someone's race is. Only you do...
    What makes you think I care what someone's race is? I care that someone is not abused, discriminated against, incriminated by or otherwise maligned because of their race or ethnic background.
    First they came for the mimes, and I did not speak out, because I was a mime.

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    Re: Immigration Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Donkey_Left View Post
    If you do not think that race plays a factor in the immigration debate, you are, perhaps, a bit naive.
    Another faulty conclusion on your part.

    I never said that "race" doesn't "play a factor in the immigration debate". I am most certain that in the overall picture, it does for many people. I am not one of those people, however.

    Your mistake is in stereotyping everyone that is against illegal immigration as a racist. I don't want English speaking white Canadians here illegally, either.
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    Re: Immigration Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Donkey_Left View Post
    What makes you think I care what someone's race is?
    I've been asking you that same question ad nauseum, and you're too afraid to answer it. Why, then, do you think I would do you the favor of a response?

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    Re: Immigration Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by smurf View Post
    Another faulty conclusion on your part.

    I never said that "race" doesn't "play a factor in the immigration debate". I am most certain that in the overall picture, it does for many people. I am not one of those people, however.

    Your mistake is in stereotyping everyone that is against illegal immigration as a racist. I don't want English speaking white Canadians here illegally, either.
    Exactly.

    But, somehow, that makes people like you and me "racists"...

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    Re: Immigration Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Imperator View Post
    learned what? that what I said is exactly right? and talk about mumbo jumbo....


    and they are illegal aliens/immigrants, key word illegal, undocumented could refer to any number of things, maybe the SPLC can try another lame euphemism....
    Drug dealer=undocumented pharmacist
    Bank robber=undocumented Brinks driver
    Sharon Tate's murderers=undocumented surgeons





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    Re: Immigration Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. M View Post
    Drug dealer=undocumented pharmacist
    Bank robber=undocumented Brinks driver
    Sharon Tate's murderers=undocumented surgeons
    The only remotely relevant comparison (bolded), is actually kind of accurate.
    First they came for the mimes, and I did not speak out, because I was a mime.

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