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    Re: GOP fighting hard to kill financial reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle88 View Post
    :rolleyes: Nobody said it was necessary constitutionally. Please stop putting words in people's mouths.
    Oh, then you agree getting votes from the minority is completely and utterly irrelevant? That seemed to be the opinion of the GOP when they had the majority.

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    Re: GOP fighting hard to kill financial reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1 View Post
    Oh, then you agree getting votes from the minority is completely and utterly irrelevant? That seemed to be the opinion of the GOP when they had the majority.
    It's unnessesary. However, I believe the point is that dems are hypocrits for demanding bipartisanship when repubs were in charge but now that the shoe is on the other foot ...
    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, ... That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,"
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    Two truths that many Americans seem to have forgotten:
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    2. Government's purpose is to secure man's God-given rights.

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    Re: GOP fighting hard to kill financial reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle88 View Post
    It's unnessesary. However, I believe the point is that dems are hypocrits for demanding bipartisanship when repubs were in charge but now that the shoe is on the other foot ...
    They're not hypocrites, because they're still talking about it now and half the stupid shit put in the healthcare bill were GOP ideas. However, they're stupid for doing it. Its like trying to be bipartisan with the termites that want to infest your home, all you're going to wind up with is a big headache. Unfortunately the dems are stupid enough to keep trying.

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    Re: GOP fighting hard to kill financial reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1 View Post
    Interestingly, I just reviewed the constitution again, and I couldn't find where it talks about the necessity of getting votes from the minority party. Maybe you could point that section out to me.

    :rolleyes:
    While you were there did you come across anything that says we are to be a capitalist society with unregulated free markets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomBlaze View Post
    While you were there did you come across anything that says we are to be a capitalist society with unregulated free markets?
    Now that you mention it ..... absolutely not.

    *gasp*

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    Re: GOP fighting hard to kill financial reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1 View Post
    They're not hypocrites, because they're still talking about it now
    But talking about something and doing it are two different things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1 View Post
    and half the stupid crap put in the healthcare bill were GOP ideas.
    That I find hard to believe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1 View Post
    However, they're stupid for doing it. Its like trying to be bipartisan with the termites that want to infest your home, all you're going to wind up with is a big headache. Unfortunately the dems are stupid enough to keep trying.
    So if the GOP regains control of both houses of Congress at some point in the future you won't complain if they refuse to be bipartisan?
    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, ... That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,"
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    Re: GOP fighting hard to kill financial reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle88 View Post
    So if the GOP regains control of both houses of Congress at some point in the future you won't complain if they refuse to be bipartisan?
    That would be new or different how?

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    Re: GOP fighting hard to kill financial reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1 View Post
    Interestingly, I just reviewed the constitution again, and I couldn't find where it talks about the necessity of getting votes from the minority party. Maybe you could point that section out to me.

    :rolleyes:
    whhhaaaooo nelly.....I am sorry, who started this whining thread and what was its OP raving about?

    You can do as you like. ram it baby, ram it!!!!!OOOHHH yeaaa baby....drill ...oops, I meant ram it...!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: GOP fighting hard to kill financial reform

    Quote Originally Posted by pramjockey View Post
    That would be new or different how?
    I can think of several major votes where in there was true bi- partisanship.The sponsoring party sought out and included opposing viewpoints etc. Both of them.

    Is it your contention that here to fore the reps have not been bi- partisan when it came to major legislation of /for prg.s, processes bills etc.?

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    Re: GOP fighting hard to kill financial reform

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    I can think of several major votes where in there was true bi- partisanship.The sponsoring party sought out and included opposing viewpoints etc. Both of them.

    Is it your contention that here to fore the reps have not been bi- partisan when it came to major legislation of /for prg.s, processes bills etc.?
    It's my contention that both sides play this game.

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    Re: GOP fighting hard to kill financial reform

    So if the GOP regains control of both houses of Congress at some point in the future you won't complain if they refuse to be bipartisan?
    Yeah the Bush admin was so bipartisan.

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    Re: GOP fighting hard to kill financial reform

    Quote Originally Posted by pramjockey View Post
    It's my contention that both sides play this game.
    to an extent yes, but, like advise and consent , we are in new waters now, ala Obama Care.

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    Re: GOP fighting hard to kill financial reform

    Quote Originally Posted by TomBlaze View Post
    Yeah the Bush admin was so bipartisan.
    actually, they crafted several large or far reaching bills that drew bi partisan sppt..

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    Re: GOP fighting hard to kill financial reform

    Quote Originally Posted by pramjockey View Post
    It's my contention that both sides play this game.
    Indeed - and both sides rail against it while they are the minority, but forget all the impassioned speechmaking when they are the majority.

    It's pretty funny, really, if you can divorce yourself from the knowledge that these folks are shafting you daily.....

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    Re: GOP fighting hard to kill financial reform

    Quote Originally Posted by MattInFla View Post
    Indeed - and both sides rail against it while they are the minority, but forget all the impassioned speechmaking when they are the majority.

    It's pretty funny, really, if you can divorce yourself from the knowledge that these folks are shafting you daily.....
    Exactly.

    It's not "new territory" or anything that is in the least bit novel for either side.

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