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    Michelle obama violates Illinois voting law

    So what do you think will come of this? Do you think the Illinois Board of Elections will fine her, or will they follow her husband's Justice Department and only prosecute whites who violate election laws?

    From a Fox blog based on information from a Chicago Sun-Times pool reporter

    Questions arose late Thursday over whether First Lady Michelle Obama engaged in unlawful electioneering during a conversation with a fellow voter at a Chicago polling place.

    Obama cast her early ballot at the Martin Luther King Center in Chicago, where she stopped for photos with other early voters. One of those voters, 56-year-old electrician Dennis Campbell, told print pool writer Abdon M. Pallasch Obama encouraged him to vote to support the administration's agenda.

    "She was telling me how important it was to vote to keep her husband's agenda going," Campbell said.

    According to Illinois state law, such encouragement is barred from polling places. "No judge of election, pollwatcher, or other person shall, at any primary or election, do any electioneering or soliciting of votes or engage in any political discussion within any polling place, within 100 feet of any polling place," the statute reads.
    Pallasch, of the Chicago Sun-Times, told Fox News the conversation seemed completely innocuous based on Campbell's recollection. "When I wrote the pool report and the story, it did not occur to me that Mr. Campbell's second-hand account of his mutually agreeable conversation with Mrs. Obama might constitute a violation of the law," Pallasch wrote in an email responding to a Fox News request
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    Nothing will come of it. Remember, when you're an Obama, you can do no wrong.

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    I fear you're probably right. The problem is, they can't just say she didn't know any better.
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    Re: Michelle obama violates Illinois voting law

    Looks to me like there`s nothing there? And Ernie...why the racial remark?

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    Re: Michelle obama violates Illinois voting law

    The claim of the thread title is not proven by the article. Whether or not Michelle Obama violated Illinois laws regarding electioneering under the cited statute will depend on what Michelle Obama actually said while at the polling place.


    It all depends on what Obama actually said to the group of voters. Had she specifically told Campbell he needed to vote for a candidate who would support President Obama's agenda, she would indeed have violated Illinois election laws, as would someone wearing a campaign button or distributing political literature inside a polling place. But according to a spokesman for the Chicago Board of Elections, Obama made no such statement.

    Rather, the elections official said, Obama told the group how important it is to vote early and vote in general, a perfectly appropriate suggestion at a polling place. Campbell's characterization of the conversation may simply have included his political position, that he voted "to keep her husband's agenda going," but not that the first lady had specifically encouraged Campbell to support Obama-friendly candidates.

    Even if one of the other voters had mentioned their support for President Obama and the first lady agreed, she would still not be in violation of election statutes because she would not, in that case, have initiated the political conversation. The Chicago Board of Elections has not, at this time, made an inquiry into the matter.
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    Re: Michelle obama violates Illinois voting law

    Seriously? Ernie, I know you don't like Obama, but you are trying to raise an issue here that simply doesn't exist.

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    Re: Michelle obama violates Illinois voting law

    I may have missed something but I couldn't find the story in the Chicago Sun Times, nor did I see a link in the Fox Blog. to the story. Could you post a link to the story?

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    Re: Michelle obama violates Illinois voting law

    Quote Originally Posted by August West View Post
    Looks to me like there`s nothing there? And Ernie...why the racial remark?
    NOTHING GOING ON? She talked about support of her husband's policies within 100 feet of the polls; a clear violation of Illinois law.
    What racial remark? Oh you mean about Justice opting not to prosecute a black man who intimidated white voters? I'M BEING RACIST????

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    Re: Michelle obama violates Illinois voting law

    Quote Originally Posted by Steerpike View Post
    The claim of the thread title is not proven by the article. Whether or not Michelle Obama violated Illinois laws regarding electioneering under the cited statute will depend on what Michelle Obama actually said while at the polling place.
    Right there in black and white in the article I posted

    One of those voters, 56-year-old electrician Dennis Campbell, told print pool writer Abdon M. Pallasch Obama encouraged him to vote to support the administration's agenda.

    "She was telling me how important it was to vote to keep her husband's agenda going," Campbell said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wooyarn View Post
    I may have missed something but I couldn't find the story in the Chicago Sun Times, nor did I see a link in the Fox Blog. to the story. Could you post a link to the story?
    Can't find it, myself. I did post a quote from the reporter who wrote it, though.
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    Re: Michelle obama violates Illinois voting law

    The Obamas could be caught trucking corpses to the polls, and nothing would become of it.

    It's the Chicago way.

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    Re: Michelle obama violates Illinois voting law

    Quote Originally Posted by Ernie S. View Post
    Right there in black and white in the article I posted
    I did see that, but later on in the article that account is called into question. She may or may not have violated the law depending on what she really did say.
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    Re: Michelle obama violates Illinois voting law

    Quote Originally Posted by goober View Post
    Seriously? Ernie, I know you don't like Obama, but you are trying to raise an issue here that simply doesn't exist.
    The issue exists, Goober, whether or not YOU believe it warrants attention. I think it's important to note when the wife of the President of the United States of America violates voting law.

    Question: Does anyone know why this thread doesn't show up under my "New Posts" list?
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    Re: Michelle obama violates Illinois voting law

    Quote Originally Posted by Steerpike View Post
    I did see that, but later on in the article that account is called into question. She may or may not have violated the law depending on what she really did say.
    I don't know.... I suppose we could ask Dennis Campbell?
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    Re: Michelle obama violates Illinois voting law

    Quote Originally Posted by Ernie S. View Post
    NOTHING GOING ON? She talked about support of her husband's policies within 100 feet of the polls; a clear violation of Illinois law.
    Did she talk about voting for anyone in particular? Her husband isn't even on the ballot (obviously), so it's not like she was endorsing a vote for him. So, was she openly endorsing any of the specific candidates by name?

    I mean, I don't know, I'm just asking. If she violated any laws, she should be fined (or whatever the penalty is). At first glance, though, I'm not sure she did anything wrong here.

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