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Joint Chiefs of Staff Member
Keep in mind that most Gov. employees earn far less than their civilian counterparts.The White House
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For Immediate Release November 29, 2010 Fact Sheet: Cutting the Deficit by Freezing Federal Employee Pay
Because of the irresponsibility of the past decade, the President inherited a $1.3 trillion projected deficit upon taking office and an economic crisis that threatened to put the nation into a second Great Depression. He moved quickly to get the economy moving again. Now, the economy is growing, and we have gained private sector jobs for the past 10 months. But families and businesses are still hurting, and our top priority is making sure that we are doing everything we can to help boost economic growth and spur job creation.
Now, we need to turn our attention to addressing the massive deficits we inherited and the unsustainable fiscal course that we are on. Doing so will take some very tough choices. Just as families and businesses around the nation have tightened their belts so must their government. That must be done in a targeted way that focuses our investments in what works and in what will lay the foundation for job creation and economic growth for years to come while cutting back elsewhere in our budget.
That is why the President has decided to propose a freeze in civilian pay for federal employees for two years, 2011 and 2012.
•This two-year pay freeze will save $2 billion for the remainder of FY 2011, $28 billion over the next five years, and more than $60 billion over the next 10 years.
•It will apply to all civilian federal employees, including those in various alternative pay plans and those working at the Department of Defense – but not military personnel.
This was a decision that was not made lightly. From the doctors and nurses who care for our veterans to the scientists searching for better treatments and cures, the men and women who care for our national parks, and the thousands who make sure that the Social Security check is in the mail and that students get their scholarships, federal workers serve their fellow Americans. They do so often with great sacrifice and motivated by a patriotic love for their country. This freeze is not to punish federal workers or to disrespect the work that they do. It is the first of many actions we will take in the upcoming budget to put our nation on sound fiscal footing – which will ask for some sacrifice from us all.
This move also is another step in what the Administration has done as part of its Accountable Government Initiative to cut costs, save taxpayer dollars and do more with less in the federal government:
•Upon taking office, the President froze salaries for all senior White House officials; in last year’s budget, he proposed to extend this freeze to other top political appointees; and he eliminated bonuses for all political appointees.
•The President directed agencies to dispose of excess real estate to save $8 billion over the next two years.
•The President set an aggressive goal of reducing improper payments by $50 billion by the end of 2012.
•In each of his budgets, the President put forward approximately $20 billion in terminations and reductions, encompassing more than 120 programs all of which have strong supporters.
•The President put forward more than $1 trillion in deficit reduction in his 2011 budget, including a three-year freeze in non-security spending – which will bring non-security discretionary spending to its lowest level as a share of the economy in 50 years.
Ultimately, reining in our deficits will take tough decisions and sacrifices made by us all. We look forward to working with both sides on Capitol Hill over the next several months to forge a commonsense deficit reduction strategy that will rein in our deficits, keep our economy growing, and lay the foundation for American competitiveness for years to come.
This is a grave injustice and I hope that everyone calls their congressmen and senators to block this effort.
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Joint Chiefs of Staff Member
Fact Sheet: Cutting the Deficit by Freezing Federal Employee Pay | The White House
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"Chaplain Charlie will tell you about how the free world will conquer Communism with the aid of God and a few marines! God has a hard-on for marines because we kill everything we see! He plays His games, we play ours! To show our appreciation for so much power, we keep heaven packed with fresh souls! God was here before the Marine Corps! So you can give your heart to Jesus, but your ass belongs to the Corps! Do you ladies understand?"
Active Citizen
In about 50 years perhaps the average pay of Fed workers will be in line with the private sector. As for attitude--that's not fixable.
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Once again, Obama looks kinda like Reagan.
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President
It's no-win. Bitch about incompetence in government, then pay salaries that only attract the bottom 1/3rd.
Vice President
Government pay has never been high, however the job stability and the benefits are especially good. Also, I suspect because of those things, stress levels are lower in government than they are in industry. Freezing pay for 2 years is probably roughly equivalent to the healthcare cost increases that workers in private industry are having to share with their employer.
President
My wife worked as an auditor for the feds for a couple of years. The stresses are different, but not lower.Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1
President
Put a cap on federal pay freeze, if a park ranger is making 23,000 year, give him his raise, if a assistant undersecretary is making 125,000, let him miss his bump.
Vice President
Too bad the federal government spent more then those 60 billion dollars it will save the nation with the employee freeze in the past week.
Not spending more, isn't saving a dime.
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Fuck that. If you're going to freeze some, freeze 'em all...It would not affect members of Congress or their staffs, defense contractors, postal workers or federal court judges and workers.
Joint Chiefs of Staff Member
Maybe 20 or 30 years ago there was good stability and benefits, but in this day and age thats not the case. Stress levels are extreme at times, mostly due to all of the bureaucracy.
"Chaplain Charlie will tell you about how the free world will conquer Communism with the aid of God and a few marines! God has a hard-on for marines because we kill everything we see! He plays His games, we play ours! To show our appreciation for so much power, we keep heaven packed with fresh souls! God was here before the Marine Corps! So you can give your heart to Jesus, but your ass belongs to the Corps! Do you ladies understand?"
President
This is so typical of this Democratic Party, coming out and making concessions before they even get to negotiating something.
Just like the public option, offshore drilling and more nuclear plants, this President concedes stuff upfront only to have to move farther to the right so that in the end, the Democratic base gets pissed while the Republican one gives up nothing, waters down everything or just plain holds stuff up.
Had they done this right, they would have tied it to unemployment benefit extensions and actually got something for their efforts.
The Republican Party has gone mad and we can now count on them to do nothing, therefore the Democrats must do something, and in the doing of it they need to actually win compromises by trading back and forth rather than these continuous concessions made out of good will that get them diddly squat.
If you're going to freeze anything, than freeze everyone, particular those who earn the most, not the least. What the fuck is this President thinking on this issue? He's got to stop playing nice and actually play for something rather than this bullshit bi-partisan thing he keeps doing upfront, because it's getting him nowhere with his own base of support.
It hurts when you realize your hero worship was misplaced, doesn't it?
Joint Chiefs of Staff Member
Thats not going to happen. Congress will not vote to have their own pay freeze
"Chaplain Charlie will tell you about how the free world will conquer Communism with the aid of God and a few marines! God has a hard-on for marines because we kill everything we see! He plays His games, we play ours! To show our appreciation for so much power, we keep heaven packed with fresh souls! God was here before the Marine Corps! So you can give your heart to Jesus, but your ass belongs to the Corps! Do you ladies understand?"
Secretary of Defense
you do realize that there are more poeople making over 100k in government today then before Obam took over.. so he inflated their salaries then froze them.. in effect they GOT their raises for the next three years already...
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