Thread: Obama Endorses Palestinian State With 1967 Borders

Originally Posted by Alma

Well, out of 16 million only 5 million were killed/died during the war. It's far less proportinately then the losses of some other ethnoces. Yet it doesn't stop Jews from claiming "genocide" by Nazis!

So, they didn't suffer enough? How many should Hitler have killed?

Any and every US leader will support Zionists for as long as Zionists will continue controlling US finances and US media.

So Obama was just fibbing in his last speech?

All right, let's do it like this: tell me
....?
Unswer these questions, then we will move on.

Why do you get the impression I've been defending possible Israeli misuse of force?

You're the one who raised the veracity and authenticity of Jewwatch.com get cracking .

Originally Posted by Alma

The fact that Palestinians choose to give birth to more children then Jews does not cancel the fact that Jews do to Palestinians what Nazis were doing to the Jews.

:rolleyes: False. The numbers prove it. The Nazis had no moral difficulty gassing children, right along with women and old men.

tashi deleks,

M

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

and...if they are, could they be excused because the Isreali folk are a bit aggressive when they feel even the slightest hint 'o any kinda percieved threat? or, be it possible that because 'o the sufferin' they endured a half century ago, they feel entitled to a bit 'o ferocity?

- MeadHallPirate

Hi, MeadHallPirate

What happens to people who go on a killing spree because they felt a hint of a percieved threat?

Let me get it straight: Jews "endured suffering" during WW2 and it gives their descendents the right to murder anyone at will and commit genocide of any non-Jewish ethnicity?
What about the other ethnicities who endured suffering during WW2? Can they commit genocide of any ethnicity they feel like?

Perhaps it is time Americans stop presenting the WW2 as the war on Jews?! Poland lost 6 million; the USSR -- 28 million, Yougoslavia -- over a million; Greece -- 800 000!

Originally Posted by George Aligator

Justice will create peace or at the least create the conditions within which peace can be created. Justice in the context of the post to which you refer means recognizing that Palestinians are entitled to a homeland just as much as Israelis are.

For there to be justice parties must agree on the efficacy of the justice system and what qualifies as justice.

A demilitarized Palestinian state sandwiched between Israel and Jordan will make Israel more secure, not less.

How would that not make Palestine a "pet state" of the U.N. monitored by international inspectors? I don't see it solving an issue just shifting the targets of "resistance" and passing on decision making to another regime.

Over two thousand years of persecution in diaspora, Jews developed an ethical system that has been an inspiration to the world. Two generations of military hegemony and they are sliding back to the brutal chauvanism of Joshua. This is a great tragedy.

There is tragedy and some promise for the future:
First Female Arab Soldier in IDF is Proud to Serve Israel

Originally Posted by Alma

Perhaps it is time Americans stop presenting the WW2 as the war on Jews?

We don't.

Poland lost 6 million; the USSR -- 28 million, Yougoslavia -- over a million; Greece -- 800 000!

None of those deaths have anything to do with the modern state of Israel.

Originally Posted by JDJarvis

So, they didn't suffer enough? How many should Hitler have killed?

They suffered, they lost 6 million? Did Poland suffer, because it also lost 6 million? Did the USSR suffer since it lost 28 millions? Yougoslavia? Greece? Spain?

Name me a nation involved in that war that did not suffer?

Is sufferring an excuse for Zionist bigots to commit genocide of Palestinians?!

Originally Posted by Mahasattva

Then explain how is it that the Palestinian population has grown 8xs since 1948?

M

I already explain it twice in this thread. Print it out and stick to your monitor.

Originally Posted by Mahasattva

:rolleyes: False. The numbers prove it. M

Let us see your numbers: an average number of children in Jewish families and in Palestinian families.

Originally Posted by Alma

They suffered, they lost 6 million? Did Poland suffer, because it also lost 6 million? Did the USSR suffer since it lost 28 millions? Yougoslavia? Greece? Spain?

Name me a nation involved in that war that did not suffer?

Is sufferring an excuse for Zionist bigots to commit genocide of Palestinians?!

The Zionists have to be the least competent practitioners of genocide on the planet.

You are not going to read what I type anyway, so why should I continue the turd wrestling?

Originally Posted by Alma

Hi, MeadHallPirate

What happens to people who go on a killing spree because they felt a hint of a percieved threat?

Let me get it straight: Jews "endured suffering" during WW2 and it gives their descendents the right to murder anyone at will and commit genocide of any non-Jewish ethnicity?
What about the other ethnicities who endured suffering during WW2? Can they commit genocide of any ethnicity they feel like?

ahoy Alma,

me hearty, i was just askin' a question. i just finished readin' "Night", so i had this on me mind when i scribed me post to ye.

it does seem to me that because Jewish folks endured horrific sufferein' a half century ago, thar descendents have some special rights that other peoples do not have.

wouldn't ye agree that this indeed be the case?

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by JDJarvis

We don't.



None of those deaths have anything to do with the modern state of Israel.

Yes, you do. Where from this "holocaust" propaganda onslaught come from? From US media first and foremost! You deliberately belittle the sacrifices of other ethnicities and concentrate on "Jewish holocaust" as an excuse for modern day Jews to commit crimes against humanity.

But they have everything to do with the demonstration of the flimsiness of your excuses of Zionism.

Originally Posted by JDJarvis

The Zionists have to be the least competent practitioners of genocide on the planet.

You are not going to read what I type anyway, so why should I continue the turd wrestling?

Please, answer these questions and I will read your answers most diligently.

1. Does the map represent a true picture of the changes to Israeli/Palestinian territory?
Barack Obama - Zionist Wolf in Sheep's Clothing - Israeli Atrocities

2. Did Rabbi Yitzhak Shapira and Rabbi Yosef Elitzur say: "There is justification for killing babies if it is clear that they will grow up to harm us, and in such a situation they may be harmed deliberately, and not only during combat with adults", or not?

3. Is this information correct?
300 Palestinians, including 32 children, kidnapped by the Israeli army since the beginning of February :: www.uruknet.info :: informazione dal medio oriente :: information from middle east :: [vs-1] :: informazione dal medio oriente :: information from middle east :: [reg.de]

4. Did Deir Yassin happen?

5. Did Qana massacres of 1996 and 2006 happen?

6. How many Palestinian homes did Israel bulldozed since its creation?

7. Watch the video. Did this happen or not?

8. Does IDF's "Child Killing Unit" that targets children as young as 10 for torture and military tribunals exist?

9. Is this information correct?
Israeli Child Killers: Documentary Proof

10. Did this happen?
http://globalresearch.ca/audiovideo/Gaza_women_shot.WMV

11. Did Israel use white phosphorus against Gaza civilians?

Originally Posted by Alma

I get it! So, unless people are killed in gas chambers, work camps and crematoriums they can not be considered killed!

And yet, since 1948 the Palestinian population has grown 8 fold.

Well, then Jews have to seriously cut their numbers for "holocaust" since only a fraction of them were killed in gas chambers, work camps and crematoriums.

The evidence is very clear and well established that the Nazis sought and acted on "a final solution for the Jewish problem," as they defined it. They did not plan or seek to implement a final solution for any other ethnicity.

Every state does everything it can to protect itself, but Israel engages in ethnocide of Palestinians in order to steal THEIR land.

Bullshit.

Israeli invasion against Lebanon failed.

Ah, there were these things called missiles that Hezbollah was firing into Israel from Lebanon. Lebanon’s government was not able or was unwilling to stop these attacks.

What lands did Israel give to Lebanon as a price for the failed agression?!

There you go again. Attempting to turn the rightful self-defense of Israel against missile attacks as aggression. Delusional.

Don't try to justify the crimes of Zionists.
Jew Watch - Jewish Genocidal Murders of Others - Palestinian

Nice. Your proof is from a neo-Nazi anti-Semitic holocaust denial site.

Jew Watch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jew Watch is an antisemitic[1] website that promotes Holocaust denial,[2] and makes many negative claims about Jews, which include allegations of a conspiracy that Jews control the media and banking industries,[3] and accusations of Jewish involvement in terrorist groups. The site contains a large amount of propaganda, according to Sam Varghese of The Age, similar to that used in Nazi Germany.[4] It is widely considered a hate site.[1] Jew Watch has received support from Stormfront, a neo-Nazi site.[5] The site describes itself as a "not-for-profit library for private study, scholarship, or research (that keeps) a close watch on Jewish Communities [sic] and organizations worldwide".[6]

No more evidence needs to be provided. You are an anti-Semitic hater blinded by conspiracy theories and the lies of neo-Nazis.

tashi deleks,

M