Thread: NBC and the "Pledge of Allegiance"

Originally Posted by Steve

How would the removal of "God" from our Pledge or our money have a negative impact?

It won't and my argument is not about keeping "God" on or in anything but rather against the people who tend to want it removed out of spite.

Originally Posted by Mrs. M

It won't and my argument is not about keeping "God" on or in anything but rather against the people who tend to want it removed out of spite.

Those people are obviously novices in the art of spite. If they knew a thing or two, they wouldn't call for "God" references to be removed, but merely replaced with "People Who Believe In God Are Stupid And Smell Terribly and Everyone Should Hate Them. Like, Really, Really, Really Hate Them."

Originally Posted by Mrs. M

Your opinion that all conservatives hate women, teachers and brown people was dead wrong and the eye roll was at the absurdity of such a statement. If that offends you, oh well, maybe your silly statement offended me...did you think about that?

You're offending me with your crap.

Did you think about that?

Of course not, you want to be right and score points and so you won't shut up.

Yep, the retards never understand things like being facetious or sarcasm.

Originally Posted by Jefe

Federal court buildings are a different story. I do see it as an overt push to get "religion back in to government", which is bullshit - religion never really was a part of our federal government, as I've stated repeatedly in this thread. On a state or county level, that's fine, and it's in line with the fact that most (all?) state constitutions already reference God. In Federal courthouses, I don't agree with it.

I don't know if you're familiar with the "appearance" of the U.S. Supreme Court Building or not (in a general sense).

Here's an image:



You'll note that it looks almost exactly like (is intended to look almost exactly like) the Parthenon - the Temple of the Godess Athena Parthenos, from ancient Greece.

If you look at the friezes above the columns they include likenesses of, among others, Moses, Solomon, and Muhammad (yes, that Muhammad).

The big statue of the seated figure to the left of the stairs (as you're facing the building) is entitled "Contemplation of Justice". You'll notice that the anonymous seated figure is holding a smaller statue in her right hand. That small statue is known as the "Guardian of Justice".

The Guardian is commonly known to be modeled after the Greek Godess Themis. Themis means "divine law" in Greek.

In short, the U.S. Supreme Court Building is shot through with religious iconography.

I guess we could remove the Ten Commandments from Federal courthouses, but at the same time we'd have to deface the Supreme Court Building to remove any traces of Greek, Jewish, and Islamic religious iconography as well.

Personally, I think that would be an aweful lot of work for nothing.

Originally Posted by Speakeasy

Those people are obviously novices in the art of spite. If they knew a thing or two, they wouldn't call for "God" references to be removed, but merely replaced with "People Who Believe In God Are Stupid And Smell Terribly and Everyone Should Hate Them. Like, Really, Really, Really Hate Them."

It really boils down to keeping it or removing it will hurt no one (other than the cost of removing it) and since it's been a tradition (keep in mind, one that hurts no one), why bother with it? Have we really become such a petty society that we're willing to overhaul all of our currency because some snotty nosed brat is "offended" by it?

Originally Posted by Golden Cabal

You're offending me with your crap.

Did you think about that?

Of course not, you want to be right and score points and so you won't shut up.

Yep, the retards never understand things like being facetious or sarcasm.

Oh bless your heart! You've resorted to calling me a retard! Grow up, junior...you're too young to play with the big girls.

Originally Posted by Speakeasy

Those people are obviously novices in the art of spite.

Sounds like you're working on a book deal..

Originally Posted by Mrs. M

Oh bless your heart! You've resorted to calling me a retard! Grow up, junior...you're too young to play with the big girls.

You just proved my point. You're also the kind of person that just has to have the last word so you'll just keep on responding to these posts.

Grow up yourself.

You are not correct.

Originally Posted by Speakeasy

Those people are obviously novices in the art of spite. If they knew a thing or two, they wouldn't call for "God" references to be removed, but merely replaced with "People Who Believe In God Are Stupid And Smell Terribly and Everyone Should Hate Them. Like, Really, Really, Really Hate Them."

Actually, now that you mention it, and i come to think of it - this may just be NBC's attempts to get more viewers for the next majors they have the rights to. They get creamed every final Sunday of a major they host, in comparison to the ones CBS hosts. Now granted, its a bit difficult to compare given the other factors that get folks to decide whether to tune in or not, but this also gives them a good way to save face when they lose the rights to the Masters and PGA Championship along with the Ryder Cup come 2013. This way they can blame it all on this controversy and run the political wing of their network rather than facing the facts: old people who watch golf preffer CBS and that con-incides perfectly with the way CBS run 60 minutes on Sunday night after the final round.

Originally Posted by Jefe

"Under God" should never have been added to the pledge anyway. It wasn't in the original version, it was added in 1954, when everyone was affraid of those godless commies.

I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. ~Francis Bellamy, The Youth's Companion, 8 September 1892

Exactly my thoughts. The "under god" bit was a gross mutilation of the Pledge of Allegiance. It would be great to have the original back.

The pledge is an abomination. It should not be required of the citizens to say it period.

Why should any ordinary citizen have to prove their loyalty to the government anyway?

Doing so borders on tyranny.

Originally Posted by Golden Cabal

Doing so borders on tyranny.

LOL

Can you explain how pledging allegience to a republican form of government borders on tyranny?

Because it sounds like a really stupid thing to say.

Republicanism is probably the closest thing I can think of to the antithesis of tyranny in governance.

Originally Posted by Golden Cabal

You just proved my point. You're also the kind of person that just has to have the last word so you'll just keep on responding to these posts.

Grow up yourself.

You are not correct.

LOL....pot meet kettle! You're dead wrong and not man enough to admit it.