Thread: NBC and the "Pledge of Allegiance"

Originally Posted by thanatos144

Like politicians. I was using my phone at work.

Okay...

Originally Posted by Steve

If some future President says we're one nation under Muhammed Ali, does that mean that, suddenly, Ali will become a supreme being?

Didn't we pretty much establish that when he fought Sonny Liston?

Originally Posted by FearandLoathing

I am no theologian. However, it is my understanding that the God of the Q'oran is the God of the Hebrews.

it is unless you are like steve and slugo that dont use facts and just ignore all facts and try and make the claim that god is not god in other religions.
see their theory reads like this. every religion has a sumpreme being that they call god. but if it is in english then it only the chatholic god because it has be in every language in the world for it not to be just a catholic god. but because it is only in enlgish it has to be that evil catholic god so must be banned

Originally Posted by Porras

Didn't we pretty much establish that when he fought Sonny Liston?

But not George Foreman

Originally Posted by sailorman126

it is unless you are like steve and slugo that dont use facts and just ignore all facts and try and make the claim that god is not god in other religions.
see their theory reads like this. every religion has a sumpreme being that they call god. but if it is in english then it only the chatholic god because it has be in every language in the world for it not to be just a catholic god. but because it is only in enlgish it has to be that evil catholic god so must be banned

No the God of the Christians is the God of Moses also. They all have the same characters. Jesus is in the same lineage as King David of Israel(ancient). He is supposidly the last, but then again he and his bros had different Dads(Jesus' Dad was the Hebrew God Yahweh ), but that should not stop aything, it is from his mother that the lineage of David is from.
Jesus is no God for you to worship, he is the one that demcrotized salvation and everlasting life by allowing all to enter the Kingdom of Heaven through Jesus, not the ancient ideal that slvation was through your religion of your preist doing it for you.. He is the right hand of God.

Originally Posted by sailorman126

steve i will try one more time god is not just christian do you understand god is not just christain i dont know how many times we have to tell you that it incluldes all religions not just christians do you now understand that every religion prays to god not just christians so again god is not just chrsistian so when we say under god it includes all religions not just christians i hope i have told this enough that it might sink in to you little brain. but just incase all religions pray to god so under god is not just for christians no matter how many times you try and say it is only for christians

Not all religions pray to God.

Originally Posted by sailorman126

steve
ok i wil try yet again to explain this to you. 99% of this country you do understand that when i say 99% i mean the people of this country that is all people not just a very small minority. are you still with me? if you are then 99% of this country belives in god and wants in god we trust and under god on the money and in the pledge. it is not a christian thing as you keep saying that is all religions. as for being intolerant i am not. you are because you have determiined that your beliefs are more important than 99% of the people that live in this country. so what make you more important that just about everyone else in this country. i think it is just becaue you hate people that belive in god. you certanily post that way. just like cabel does. you ignore all facts and keep posting the same old tired bs.
and how do you figure all people must have a voice or it should not be? so by your standards being that i didnt votre for obama he should not be president after all 100% of the people did not vote for obama. also where do you draw the line? only 999.9999% of the people should count or does it have to be 100% of the people all the time on every issue? or is it like in reality when the majority votes on something then it is so. so if you dont like it bring it to the ballot and have it changed of course it will never happen becasue the vast majority of the people in this country of all religions likes under god and in god we trust.

Where did you get this "99%" statistic? I'd love to see a citation for that.

Not surprised about how little it took for...



I'm only surprised at how long it held out for. (no pun intended)

Originally Posted by sailorman126

it is unless you are like steve and slugo that dont use facts and just ignore all facts and try and make the claim that god is not god in other religions.
see their theory reads like this. every religion has a sumpreme being that they call god. but if it is in english then it only the chatholic god because it has be in every language in the world for it not to be just a catholic god. but because it is only in enlgish it has to be that evil catholic god so must be banned

Personally, I believe in the Old Greek Gods. They're capricious, mean and crazy. (The thing they admire most about humanity is also the greatest offence we can give them) If you get on their wrong side, (and gods knows how you avoid that), they'll play cruel games with you all your life for their amusement, and sometimes they'll do that anyway, just for the hell of it. The best you can hope for is that they won't notice you somehow. but you can't live your life by that maxim, for they hate cowardice as much as disrespect.

Originally Posted by John Drake

Personally, I believe in the Old Greek Gods. They're capricious, mean and crazy. (The thing they admire most about humanity is also the greatest offence we can give them) If you get on their wrong side, (and gods knows how you avoid that), they'll play cruel games with you all your life for their amusement, and sometimes they'll do that anyway, just for the hell of it. The best you can hope for is that they won't notice you somehow. but you can't live your life by that maxim, for they hate cowardice as much as disrespect.

Now see, back when I used to be a bit more atheistic, I used to tell people that there was no God. I'd ask them why their God was any better than the ancient Greek Gods, for example. They'd laugh and say something to the effect that, well, those were fictitious Gods. No one was ever able to give me a good reason as to why their God was any less fictitious than the Gods from ancient times. I predict that someday in the future, people will laugh at our Gods, as they stare lovingly at their Flying Spagetti Monsters or what have you.

Originally Posted by Rude Boy

Where did you get this "99%" statistic? I'd love to see a citation for that.

im sorry it is only 92% of the country
Gallup: More Than 90 Percent of Americans Believe in God

Originally Posted by Mrs. M

As for tradition, considering that "In God We Trust" has been on coins since 1864, (147 years) and the country is 234 years old, that means that for only 84 years, the phrase wasn't on our money. Common sense should tell you what most view as the tradition now.

The fact that the Jesus-crowd felt it necessary and proper to put their religious nuttery on our currency is an example of how they are forever shoving their superstitions in our faces.

They just can't keep their fairy tales to themselves. I think it's an indication of their basic lack of confidence in the superstitions they live by.

Stephen Hawking: "Religion is a fairy tale for those afraid of the dark."

If we are judging nations on how closely they adhere to the Christian ideal, then I'd say the nations who do the best job reducing poverty and in general taking care of their least advantaged population are the most "Christian."

And among the developed nations of the world, that sure isn't the United States. Denmark, the Neatherlands, Germany, Sweden, Norway, and others do a far better job of providing a web of support for the needy, whereas the United States is far more concerned with supporting the rich and powerful--the opposite of what Jesus preached.

What's so pathetic is that so many "Christians" in this country (Barbara Bachmann and Sarah Palin come to mind) would never recognize Jesus were he "to return."