Thread: NBC and the "Pledge of Allegiance"

Perhaps we can continue to change our national motto and pledge of allegiance to better illustrate our more modern threats. I mean, people seem to support the fact that we did it before, so why stop now? Such as "In God We Trust Except For That Allah Asshole" or maybe "one nation under God, fuck you Muslim extremists why do you have to be such cock suckers, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all". Perhaps we could fit a "Lick our balls, China" somewhere into the national anthem.

Ha!

Originally Posted by Steve

Something which has been mentioned a number of times, and which has been, for the most part, ignored by those on the right is the fact that the Pledge did not originally contain the words "under God". It seems funny, and not mildly hypocritical, that those who insist on the left not imposing their views on others are completely accepting of the fact that the Pledge, after 1954, that's exactly what was done.

Forplay made this statement earlier:



By adding "under God" to the Pledge, it was, in fact, altered to fit an agenda. I don't suspect that Forplay, or anyone else on the right, will have the balls to admit that, but it's a fact which simply cannot be argued...

This is a government document accepted by congress as it's national Pledge and altered by congress at various times, to be exact 4 times. This to me is a document that can only be altered by congress not by some TV network to fit their agenda. I would argue this is a government owned document and no one has the right to alter the Pledge except congress. Further to use this script and alter it to fit their addenda or for any purpose is in violation of our copy right laws.

Please correct me if you feel I'm wrong in my assumption.

The Pledge of Allegiance of the United States is an oath of loyalty to the national flag and the Republic of the United States of America, originally composed by Francis Bellamy in 1892 and formally adopted by Congress as the national pledge in 1942. The Pledge has been modified four times since its composition, with the most recent change adding the words "under God" in 1954. Congressional sessions open with the recital of the Pledge, as do government meetings at local levels, meetings held by the National Exchange Club, Knights of Columbus, Royal Rangers, Boy Scouts of America, Girl Scouts of the USA, Fraternal Order of Eagles, Freemasons, Lions Club, Rotary Club, Toastmasters International and their concordant bodies, as well as other organizations.

Pledge of Allegiance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by Forplay

This is a government document accepted by congress as it's national Pledge and altered by congress at various times, to be exact 4 times. This to me is a document that can only be altered by congress not by some TV network to fit their agenda. I would argue this is a government owned document and no one has the right to alter the Pledge except congress. Further to use this script and alter it to fit their addenda or for any purpose is in violation of our copy right laws.

Please correct me if you feel I'm wrong in my assumption.

The Pledge of Allegiance is not copyrighted.

Originally Posted by Forplay

Congressional sessions open with the recital of the Pledge, as do government meetings at local levels, meetings held by the National Exchange Club, Knights of Columbus, Royal Rangers, Boy Scouts of America, Girl Scouts of the USA, Fraternal Order of Eagles, Freemasons, Lions Club, Rotary Club, Toastmasters International and their concordant bodies, as well as other organizations.

Pledge of Allegiance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Originally Posted by Steve

By adding "under God" to the Pledge, it was, in fact, altered to fit an agenda. I don't suspect that Forplay, or anyone else on the right, will have the balls to admit that, but it's a fact which simply cannot be argued...

Certainly, one can see the difference between an act of Congress and an act of some tweebs at NBC.

The simple fact of the matter is the overwhelming majority of Americans believe in deity, and there is no reason our Pledge should not reflect that, and if Congress passes the legislation, and if NBC wants to use it, they have a duty to use it in its entirety.

I think - and I feel even more Americans would agree with that - you got bigger problems.

Originally Posted by Jefe

The Pledge of Allegiance is not copyrighted.

In my opinion it is, it's a person's work and anytime you infringe on using a person's work to your benefit it is stealing. If you think anyone can use the wording of the Pledge and change it as they see fit and use it as their own. You are mistaken.

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

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ahoy Forplay,

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I did not make that post that you referred too. You placed my name on a post that is not mine.

Originally Posted by Commodore

Certainly, one can see the difference between an act of Congress and an act of some tweebs at NBC.

The simple fact of the matter is the overwhelming majority of Americans believe in deity, and there is no reason our Pledge should not reflect that, and if Congress passes the legislation, and if NBC wants to use it, they have a duty to use it in its entirety.

ahoy Commodore,

General Electric and Comcast, whom own NBC, disagree with ye.

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by Forplay

In my opinion it is, it's a person's work and anytime you infringe on using a person's work to your benefit it is stealing. If you think anyone can use the wording of the Pledge and change it as they see fit and use it as their own. You are mistaken.

The original author didn't copyright it, and subsequent versions were never copyrighted either *. However, it may go against U.S. Code.. but those are violated all the time, and I don't believe there is any realy penalty for doing so. See the U.S. Flag code - there are all kinds of rules about how to display the flag, what not to do, etc, and we violate it all over the place.


* If someone can prove otherwise, I'll gladly admit my error.

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

ahoy Commodore,

General Electric and Comcast, whom own NBC, disagree with ye.

- MeadHallPirate

Now that's a profound statement, we already knew that.

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

ahoy Commodore,

General Electric and Comcast, whom own NBC, disagree with ye.

- MeadHallPirate

That might be true, though it's unclear how far up the chain the decision went.

What is clear, is they know the majority of Americans disagree, otherwise, they wouldn't have been so quick to apologize.