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Old 10-23-2006
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Re: Black Democrats may split from party

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That's a bunch of BULL SH*% and you know it!
The number of Democrat chicken-crap candy-asses is at it's all time high.
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That's cheap, to hide behind Martin Luther King, just drop it already, the man is dead, you nor anyone else can speak for him.
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was a Republican.
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And Blackwell, whom singlehandedly disenfranchised thousands of black voters in his own state, a champion of black republicans, obviously proving that being a republican has nothing to do with the color of your skin.
Being a human being has zero to do with the color of ones skin but of the content of their character.
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This discussion has gotten way off base, I apologize, my fault.
You're apology is accepted. But your Avatar is inexcusable.
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Old 10-24-2006
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Re: Black Democrats may split from party

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But your Avatar is inexcusable.
So are the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians, killed in an illegal war, started by an illigitimate president, based on fabricated intelligence.
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Old 10-24-2006
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Re: Black Democrats may split from party

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So are the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians
1. There aren't hundreds of thousands dead. 2. All deaths in Iraq, Afghanistan, as well as Turkey, Bali, Egypt, Madrid, London, New York and elsewhere are caused by Baathist Socialist and other Terrorist groups, al Qaeda, Hezbollah etc.
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killed in an illegal war,
The War on Terror in Iraq and Afghanistan are not illegal. You are factually incorrect.
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started by an illigitimate president,
The War on Terror was started by the Terrorists. We used to appease them but, no longer. Secondly, President Bush was elected to office and is only around for another couple years.
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based on fabricated intelligence.
None of the intelligence was fabricated. Your entire post is a fabrication. Your Avatar is despicable and uncalled for. And, your post is entirely off-topic.


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To appeal to African Americans, GOP must do more than run ads
October 24, 2006
BY JESSE JACKSON



The National Black Republican Committee has a hard time appealing to African Americans. But, every election cycle, Republicans remember that it is no longer an advantage to be the party of white sanctuary, anchored in the South. They dust off their cross-race appeals, revive the memory of the "party of Lincoln."

This year the Republican committee was bankrolled to put a radio ad on the air laying claim to the Rev. Martin Luther King as a Republican. The ad, of course, is an insult. King was reared in Atlanta in a family that was opposed to segregation -- and thus opposed to the Southern barons of the Democratic Party who were the guardians of legal apartheid at the time. African Americans were Republicans after the Civil War, joining the party of Lincoln in legions.

Was King a Republican? Not this Republican Party. The ad is a burlesque -- like those who claim that King would be opposed to affirmative action, because his dream was of a world where we would be measured by the content of our character, not the color of our skin.
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Old 10-24-2006
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Re: Black Democrats may split from party

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Black Republicans are taking on Democrats across the nation.
OF course, and well they should, Skin color should have nothing to do with it.
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Old 10-24-2006
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OF course, and well they should, Skin color should have nothing to do with it.
Values have everything to do with it.

Democrats don't seem to stand for anything.

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“Mr. President, read our lips. Our votes are not for sale.”

“We blacks had problems in the '60s and we solved them by marching. We've still got problems -- let's march.”

“I do believe the Democratic party has moved far to the right. I do believe that the party has a bunch of elephants running around in donkey clothes.”
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Values have everything to do with it.

Democrats don't seem to stand for anything.
Are you suggesting that blacks have more moral values than whites? if not, what does skin color have to do with it???
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Are you suggesting that blacks have more moral values than whites? if not, what does skin color have to do with it???
I never suggested that skin color has anything to do with values.

However, values do have a great deal to do with one political party over the other. For example, marriage, national security, taxes and more.
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Old 10-25-2006
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Well in america apparently if you offer them free chicken after they vote they'll vote Democrat. Jesse Jackson actually did this; gave away free chicken and cigs to those he would bus to the voting stations.

Not to mention it's the liberal mentality that has enslaved millions of blacks in the inner cities by giving them handouts based on the number of children they have if they're single; thereby driving black men away from the home. Hence the younger urban black population looks to the govn as daddy instead of learning the lessons a father that's around teaches. Of course the libs would rather every citizen look to the govn as daddy but the black community is a start.

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May I have a reference to the sociological data which led to this assertion?
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1. There aren't hundreds of thousands dead. 2. All deaths in Iraq, Afghanistan, as well as Turkey, Bali, Egypt, Madrid, London, New York and elsewhere are caused by Baathist Socialist and other Terrorist groups, al Qaeda, Hezbollah etc.The War on Terror in Iraq and Afghanistan are not illegal. You are factually incorrect.The War on Terror was started by the Terrorists. We used to appease them but, no longer. Secondly, President Bush was elected to office and is only around for another couple years.None of the intelligence was fabricated. Your entire post is a fabrication. Your Avatar is despicable and uncalled for. And, your post is entirely off-topic.
Kinetic, what is it with the avatar abuse? Is this a new form of debate? It's happened to me and I'm still puzzled as to what my avatar has to do with the quality of my posts.

Perhaps you can enlighten me?
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I never suggested that skin color has anything to do with values.

However, values do have a great deal to do with one political party over the other. For example, marriage, national security, taxes and more.
OF course. HAVE YOU READ THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD??? "BLACK "republicans
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Old 10-25-2006
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Re: Black Democrats may split from party

Why is that a surprise. It's close to election times and the Democrats are projected to win back at least the House and maybe the Senate. so naturally they line up in a circular firing squad and have at it. It's been happening for as long as I can remember and it will happen again. Somehow we snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and than, on Nov. 8th, we all sit around and wonder what happened. Black Democrats not supporting the party is just the latest. We Democrats should pay attention to Chuck Shummer and win first. We can argue later. If you do not get elected you don't have to worry about who you support. You sit on the sidelines again!
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Re: Black Democrats may split from party

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Kinetic, what is it with the avatar abuse?
Angry American's avatar is hideous.
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Is this a new form of debate?
Not at all. The Avatar has a bloody faced man and is terrible.
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It's happened to me and I'm still puzzled as to what my avatar has to do with the quality of my posts.

Perhaps you can enlighten me?
I answered all questions and offered information. But, I had to say something. The image is almost inexcusable.


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The Emerging Black GOP Majority is a hard hitting take no political prisoners comprehensive dissect of the Republican Party’s past, present and future efforts to break the Democratic Party’s iron grip on the African-American vote. It presents an in-depth look at the party’s successes and failures, and examines the pitfalls and possibilities that confront the GOP in attempting to court black voters. The book presents a fresh view of a crucial arena of American politics and race.
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Old 10-26-2006
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Re: Black Democrats may split from party

Get the book!

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Old 10-26-2006
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Re: Black Democrats may split from party

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May I have a reference to the sociological data which led to this assertion?
the out of wedlock birthrate in 1960 was something like 18%. The 1991 rate of births to black females out of wedlock was 68 per cent, but there is some good news overall...http://www.prcdc.org/summaries/teenp...eenpreg04.html BUT the drop has not been as high in the afrcian amercian pop. and oh, Black children raised by married couples are almost as unlikely to be poor as whites raised in the same manner (12 percent to 8 percent respectively). The problem is that comparatively few black families are intact. http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed101305c.cfm.

“Black women, in sum, are less likely to marry, stay married, and remarry. Those who marry do so at an older age than do whites. The differences between blacks and whites . . . are greater than they were a generation ago. As a result, black women spend far less of their life in a marriage than do white women. . . . white women now can expect to spend less than half of their lives married. But among black women, the corresponding figure has plunged from 40 percent to 22 percent – about the same proportion of life that the average college-educated person spends attending school. Marriage has become just a temporary stage of life for blacks, preceded by a lengthening period of singlehood and followed by a long period of living without a spouse. . . . For blacks, even more so than for whites, a long, stable marriage is the exception rather than the rule.” http://www.pobronson.com/factbook/pages/417.html

Looking at the latino rates there is not good news either..
http://www.teenpregnancy.org/religio...Fact_Sheet.pdf
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Re: Black Democrats may split from party

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Has anyone followed the possiblity that the Democrats are loosing their African American base to the homosexual community?
Impossible. With the Republican record on minority rights and being the party of the redneck south with their confederate flag loving base, I don't think you'll see many blacks signing up to be Republican and especially not if Obama runs.
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