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Old 02-23-2007
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Re: Just say NoMo to Homo ...Stop HR 254

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I once saw a size 18 woman trying to wear size 6 jeans and a mid-riff. Personally I think that sight is disgusting as well. Tell you what, let's deny her the right to work also for no other reason than I don't think she is aesthetically pleasing to my eyes.
i agree.
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Old 02-23-2007
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Even in jest, that word offends many.
Memo to Si modo: Mark Twain could care less about PCness. In fact, he absolutely abhors it.

BTW, I'll be sure to call all my faggoty friends tomorrow & tell them they're supposed to be offended when I call them "silly faggots." It'll surely be news to them. Especially my friends David & Ron, who have been together for 20 years & affectionately call each other "faggot" all the time. . .

If words hurt you, you need to get over yourself.
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Old 02-24-2007
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And many anthropoligists believe that percentage has been pretty constant over the millennia. (Thank you for using the word "natural" rather than "normal". Normal has a specific statistical meaning, and technically, homosexuality is not normal - it's a pet peeve.)

Natural vs. normal. Seems equitable in my mind. Interchangeable even.

The sky is blue. That's certainly natural.

The sky is blue. That's certainly normal.

Nope, not a lick of difference from where I'm sittin'.

Seems you are parsing words.

Or splitting hairs.

Whichever you prefer. Because one or the other likely has a statistical meaning, though I'm not sure which one.
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Old 02-24-2007
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Re: Just say NoMo to Homo ...Stop HR 254

Dictionary are excellent tools to figure out the difference between two words. Or you could take introductory stats at your community college, if you were so inclined.

Thank you for the additional information you have provided.
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Old 02-24-2007
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No way does this bill pass. It is a blatant violation of our right to free speech. I don't know how anyone who calls themself an American could ever support nonsense such as this.
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Because GAYS get thrown out of homes, fired from jobs, and beaten (if not killed) for being gay.
and so are many others depending on what you are and where you are....we cannot delegate tolerance, we need to educate not put more barriers of separation between us.....like it or no, free speech is free speech...if someone is stupid enough to use the term fag or dyke, they deserve the relegation to ignorance and indifference they get.....educating someone to be tolerant is much more a rational course than creating laws that just shut down free speech as awful as it can sometimes be...and yes I’ll pull put the old, if they are going to call any homophobic phrases hate speech then where do we go from there argument out there? Shall we then enact laws that say ANY negative speech regards ones beliefs or actions, say, religion or belief in extraterrestrials etc. are to be regulated too?
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and so are many others depending on what you are and where you are....we cannot delegate tolerance, we need to educate not put more barriers of separation between us.....like it or no, free speech is free speech...if someone is stupid enough to use the term fag or dyke, they deserve the relegation to ignorance and indifference they get.....educating someone to be tolerant is much more a rational course than creating laws that just shut down free speech as awful as it can sometimes be...and yes I’ll pull put the old, if they are going to call any homophobic phrases hate speech then where do we go from there argument out there? Shall we then enact laws that say ANY negative speech regards ones beliefs or actions, say, religion or belief in extraterrestrials etc. are to be regulated too?
I'm not saying that I'm for the bill. My quote was in reference to some individuals' insistence that they're being victimized, when it's clear that they're not.
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I should mention, I don't consider the First amendment to be a serving suggestion. Down with HR 254....

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No way does this bill pass. It is a blatant violation of our right to free speech. I don't know how anyone who calls themself an American could ever support nonsense such as this.
I think you're probably right.

Interesting how certain "groups" and "activists" and "movements" want to redefine everything.

Now they'd like to redefine freedom of speech even. What THEY say is ok for us to SAY is a-Ok

Sounds like a place somewhere ELSE on Earth doesn't it ?
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I should mention, I don't consider the First amendment to be a serving suggestion.
That's what we're SUPPOSED to beleive now.

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Down with HR 254....

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Doubt it'll go anywhere really. I'll be interested in the decision and the text OF it if/when it becomes available.
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Rep. Jackson-Lee of Houston introduced it. I guess people are upset that, while beating a black guy or a homosexual, you'll get extra prison time for saying "you effing n----r" or "g-d faggot." The speech itself isn't criminalized; it's the speech in combination with an action.

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i see nothing wrong with law that will mandate enhanced charges against those who would harm someone simply because they disagreed with their lifestyle.

It worries me we got people like "Robodoon" fighting this legislation because they want the right to harm their fellow citizens.

Regardless over how you feel about someone's sexuality, you should be discouraged from harming them.

This legislation is only a progressive step in American culture where people are allowed to be both homophobic and homosexual. You need to discourage the two from violent interaction.

That being said, there needs to laws that protect both hetero and homosexuals. This would only be a matter of fairness as there is not much evidence that homosexuals attack/kill hetersexuals simply for their sexuality.

Why fight this obviously needed legislation? Homosexuals have as much right to feel safe as heterosexuals.
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when i was delivering pizza.. i had to go to this large office complex.. and this professional environment yada yada// .. and a guy...in a dress with fuckin lipstick and 5 o clock shadow..big square jaw and an adams apple.. in fuckin stockings..big fake tits, do you think his right should be protected to work there? personally i have no idea why he was... it has nothing to do with gays.. i am just curious. if i were an employer id fire his embarrassing ugly ass. lol he could atleast try to look more feminin.. Lol..
What makes you think such people would not be fired simply because they look "unprofessional" and not because of their sexuality.
You need to be smart to understand fairness.
In this case, this guy sounds like a clown. Where I work, we cant dress as clowns.
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do trans.. the men who wear womens clothing have the right to go to work in womens clothing? is there laws to protect them>?
Actually, no. Do you think rapists would not jump that bandwagon to get into womens restrooms?
They are not protected. You can freely discriminate against transvestites as long as you know they are so.
You do face libel/slander charges, however, if they turn out to be real.
But, weigh your own choices on that one.
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i see nothing wrong with law that will mandate enhanced charges against those who would harm someone simply because they disagreed with their lifestyle.

It worries me we got people like "Robodoon" fighting this legislation because they want the right to harm their fellow citizens.

Regardless over how you feel about someone's sexuality, you should be discouraged from harming them.

This legislation is only a progressive step in American culture where people are allowed to be both homophobic and homosexual. You need to discourage the two from violent interaction.

That being said, there needs to laws that protect both hetero and homosexuals. This would only be a matter of fairness as there is not much evidence that homosexuals attack/kill hetersexuals simply for their sexuality.

Why fight this obviously needed legislation? Homosexuals have as much right to feel safe as heterosexuals.
I REALLY don't think that anyone is fighting this so they can have "the right to harm their fellow citizens."

That's ridiculous. That's not what this is about at ALL.

You say:

Homosexuals have as much right to feel safe as heterosexuals.

and I agree.

But I don't see how making certain people criminals for speaking out about their beliefs that homosexuality is wrong or dangerous or un-natural will make ANYONE feel safer.

There are dangerous fuckers out there that will kill you as soon as look at you. ALWAYS HAVE been.

Passing some "feel good" law isn't going to clean out the dark side of humanity. That's just fantasy.
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