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Old 12-16-2007
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Re: Pelosi: Republicans `like' Iraq War

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Re: Pelosi: Republicans `like' Iraq War

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Really? Last I heard, the US invaded Iraq, not Iran or "al Qaeda."



That would be the groups who oppose the US troops, partially because those troops to date have killed many more civilians than they've defended.



US forces, with its aerial bombing, which typically hits civilian areas, killing thousands.

IEDs, OTOH, are far less productive in terms of killing.



No one. There are, however, people bombing mosques as a result of a civil war already existing.



Opposition parties who felt unrepresented by the elected govt, which would be expected if they were a minority.

i. e. if the US were artificially fused together with Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Syria, Jordan etc. into one country, the Continental portion of the (fused) America would be very upset at national election outcomes since Islamists would be voted into power all the time, compliments of the will of the majority.

That's why a civil war exists in Iraq, because the minority groups (i. e. Sunnis) don't like the majority govt.
We invaded several years ago.

Last I heard was we are trying to keep the peace in Iraq.

Where are you getting your news from these days?


So nobody blew up any Mosques until after the Civil War started?

Boy are you in the dark.

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We invaded several years ago.

Last I heard was we are trying to keep the peace in Iraq.
You heard from the gummint who told you wrong.

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So nobody blew up any Mosques until after the Civil War started?
Mosque bombing were rare when Saddam was in power, i. e. the time right before the civil war (which started after Saddam was ousted)

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Boy are you in the dark.

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Cool, the GOP insignia!
Must make the secret handshake a real challenge.
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Re: Pelosi: Republicans `like' Iraq War

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What block are you on? I have a cousin that lives on that street.
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Re: Pelosi: Republicans `like' Iraq War

I don't know what a gummint is.



I heard most of my news from the guys that have been over there.

The first Mosque bombings preceeded the media push and the Democrat declaration that there was a civil war.



Saddam must have been such a nice guy. The way he 'took care' of his people.......


Yahoo! Image Search Results for saddam mass grave
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I can't see why we shouldn't try to bring his kind of leadership back to Iraq.........because nothing bad happened during Saddams rule at all.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2...1127701702.jpg




And this is the Democrat insignias:


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I don't know what a gummint is.
It's what you call the folks running the US when babybush and/or his cowpoke brethren are in charge.

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I heard most of my news from the guys that have been over there.
That's a big reason why so many Iraqis keep fighting, because US troops (the invaders) are still over there.

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The first Mosque bombings preceeded the media push and the Democrat declaration that there was a civil war.
Exactly, mass mosque bombing started around the time of this. . .

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-images/u...complished.jpg

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Saddam must have been such a nice guy. The way he 'took care' of his people.......
He sure killed more terrorists and less innocent civilians than the US does per year after it invaded.

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I can't see why we shouldn't try to bring his kind of leadership back to Iraq.........because nothing bad happened during Saddams rule at all.
It's too late. The US already !@#$%^ed up Iraq. The days of Saddam and the Islamic terrorists being kept down in Iraq are a distant memory.

And this is the Democrat insignias:

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Not surprising, Mother Nature has always had it in for about bush's sad environment record. . .

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It's what you call the folks running the US when babybush and/or his cowpoke brethren are in charge.



That's a big reason why so many Iraqis keep fighting, because US troops (the invaders) are still over there.



Exactly, mass mosque bombing started around the time of this. . .

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-images/u...complished.jpg



He sure killed more terrorists and less innocent civilians than the US does per year after it invaded.



It's too late. The US already !@#$%^ed up Iraq. The days of Saddam and the Islamic terrorists being kept down in Iraq are a distant memory.

And this is the Democrat insignias:



Not surprising, Mother Nature has always had it in for about bush's sad environment record. . .

Not one of your comments made any sense at all.

I think you're just as hater, not a debater.

Someone this hopeless needs to be put on ignore.
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Pelosi's use of the word like is a smear.

(Wanted to be on topic when I bumped a thread more rational than the four or five Whitey threads that are the most popular tonight...not good for guests to see that.)
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Re: Pelosi: Republicans `like' Iraq War

Well at least Pelosi lives in the real world where everyone is sick and tired of this administration and really fed up with the War. It's just too bad she doesn't have the balls to cut the funding and bring the troops home immediately.

I'm so sick of both parties. Why is it that Ron Paul is the only American candidate for president who's right about foreign policy and right about immigration? Over 70% of the country agrees with the guy on the two biggest issues while the rest of everybody is looking at warmongers or typical candidates who bend and shift their positions and have pre-packaged answers to everything.

It's all game show infotainment now in politics. Pelosi said this. Reid said that. Bush said this. Ahnuld chimed in. Romney says this but really stands for that. Everyone's uttering words and no one is doing anything. No progress now in America for 7 years on mostly everything.

Technology, innovation, science, everything is there for us to work on the climate crisis; the public wants out of the wars, wants the borders secure, wants progress on global warming, wants a country that is less dependent on oil. But we keep getting the same shit, time and again.

For a lot of reasons, but mostly because of the big two or three issues, Ron Paul is clearly the only choice anyone should be making. No more corporate welfare state or illegal wars, a return to haebeus corpus, no more secret torture prisons.

I say the gov't likes Homeland Security and the Patriot Act, and that's why every candidate is mum on those two things. Both sides want big gov't, want to control our lives and waste our hard earned money. It really doesn't have to be that way this time. You can choose differently this time. You really can.
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Re: Pelosi: Republicans `like' Iraq War

"Like" war? That's a tough one.

I mean, hell, I absolutely love watching cable TV shows on past wars - especially when formerly classified/hidden stuff is revealed. The equipment, the tactics, the personalities, the innovation, the occasional heart-warming stories, the brotherhood, even the blunders.

The actual practice of "war" with all the cost? Um, no. Who could be a fan of that other than, maybe, the odd military professional in search of something to do (try and tell me Patton didn't enjoy war...geesh)? Necessary evil. Violence does solve some things.

The result of war? Now that's something of which to be a fan! American freedom? I like that. Kicking the Brits off our soil (again)? Worth the cost of a White House. Freed slaves and the U.S. staying together? Excellent. Hitler? No-brainer. Throwing back communism? Righteous! USSR gone? w00h00! A stable democracy in the Middle East that is no longer interested in developing weapons of mass destruction and supporting terror in a number of ways? Exciting! Assuming certain leftist jackasses allow the mission come to a victorious conclusion, of course.

Let's not forget the innumerable innovations and inventions that were the direct result of armed conflict. Nearly every technology/comfort we enjoy today has its roots in war.

I don't even mind cheap gas and bananas, free and open waterways, and having most of the rest of the free world completely indebted to us for their freedom.

There is a reason that our country has been in continual operation under the same government for longer than any European nation of which I can think...and it ain't mostly because of our 1337 negotiation skilz.
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Old 12-31-2007
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"Like" war? That's a tough one.

I mean, hell, I absolutely love watching cable TV shows on past wars - especially when formerly classified/hidden stuff is revealed. The equipment, the tactics, the personalities, the innovation, the occasional heart-warming stories, the brotherhood, even the blunders.

The actual practice of "war" with all the cost? Um, no. Who could be a fan of that other than, maybe, the odd military professional in search of something to do (try and tell me Patton didn't enjoy war...geesh)? Necessary evil. Violence does solve some things.
Is it that much of a stretch to say that Bush liked a result of this war (his re-election) and was working to start it? But you are right. Violence does solve some things. In this case, however, it solved not much more than one thing (Bush's re-election), while creating a shit load of nothing but problems.
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The result of war? Now that's something of which to be a fan! American freedom? I like that. Kicking the Brits off our soil (again)? Worth the cost of a White House. Freed slaves and the U.S. staying together? Excellent. Hitler? No-brainer. Throwing back communism? Righteous! USSR gone? w00h00! A stable democracy in the Middle East that is no longer interested in developing weapons of mass destruction and supporting terror in a number of ways? Exciting! Assuming certain leftist jackasses allow the mission come to a victorious conclusion, of course.

Let's not forget the innumerable innovations and inventions that were the direct result of armed conflict. Nearly every technology/comfort we enjoy today has its roots in war.

I don't even mind cheap gas and bananas, free and open waterways, and having most of the rest of the free world completely indebted to us for their freedom.

There is a reason that our country has been in continual operation under the same government for longer than any European nation of which I can think...and it ain't mostly because of our 1337 negotiation skilz.
What exactly does this war in particular have to do with that? That is what the OP mentioned, by the way.

I'd say it would be more accurate to say that Bush likes one result of the war, and doesn't mind the other results, like murder.
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I'd say it would be more accurate to say that Bush likes one result of the war, and doesn't mind the other results, like murder.
same could be said of roosevelt..so what?
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same could be said of roosevelt..so what?
So they were both pieces of shit. That's "so what." I don't understand why you fell back on a colossal turd like FDR, if that's the guy you mean.
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So they were both pieces of shit. That's "so what." I don't understand why you fell back on a colossal turd like FDR, if that's the guy you mean.
yes it was....just checking......as long as we realize, 9/10's of our political leadership are turds and cross each aisle I am cool with that.
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