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Old 07-09-2008
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Not just any earmark...

... but a really stupid one.
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Big earmark headache for Rep. Kanjorski

By Susan Crabtree
Posted: 07/08/08 07:50 PM [ET]

The Department of Transportation is refusing to move forward on an earmark backed by Rep. Paul Kanjorski (Pa.), the rare House Democrat facing a tough reelection this fall.

Transportation (DoT) is blocking funds to build a $5.6 million parking garage to the Kanjorski Center, which was constructed to attract economic development in the city of Nanticoke in Kanjorski’s Eastern Pennsylvania district. Kanjorski’s earmark for the project was included in the 2005 transportation bill.

DoT contends the garage does not meet federal rules intended to spur the use of public transportation....
TheHill.com - Big earmark headache for Rep. Kanjorski

If one must do an earmark, shouldn't one ensure that the funds are allocated in a manner in which they can actually be used? What a collosal waste.
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Re: Not just any earmark...

Wow, providing parking to a community college.
It does not speak well of the representative's skills that he could not craft the legislation to meet all the various rules that apply. But I doubt that the voters of his district will fault him for trying, although they may punish him for failing.
This is getting pretty granular, and at that level almost everything that almost any large organization does has aspects that look stupid.
Five minutes at the water cooler in any large organization should give you at least a snippet of something along those lines.
Personally I was once hired for a rush programming job to modify an operating system before it became obsolete, so the company could collect for the modification before it replaced the OS with a new version.
An engineer I know had a story he told me about how a part he designed for a defense system, that cost $50 and exceeded all design specs, was replaced by a $500 part that barely met design specs, because the contract was "Cost plus 10%".
When Jimmy Carter froze federal spending on new buildings, a project in Boston went forward by changing the project from demolishing the existing structure and replacing it, to stripping it down to the steel frame and reusing the frame, at three times the cost.
(even though it cost 3 times as much it met the presidents criteria as "renovating an existing structure" which was allowed)
And that's just stuff I have seen with my own eyes, actually been a part of, or personally know the participants.
In the famous "Boston Big Dig" that was supposed to cost 2.5 billion and ended up costing 14.5 billion, there is a "deferred plan" for a railroad tunnel. That line on the paper connects the national rail system, which ended at Boston's South Station, to the rail system at Boston's North Station, which made railroads in Maine eligible for federal funds for track repair.
All part of the deal to get the project through.
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Re: Not just any earmark...

Putting money into the schools?

How horrible!
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Putting money into the schools?

How horrible!
thats not quite the point....
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Re: Not just any earmark...

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Putting money into the schools?

How horrible!
Money that can't be spent? Yes, that is horrible.
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Re: Not just any earmark...

lets stay on topic, earmarks, dem congress and collusion amongst them all, both sides. They claimed they were going to clean up the process in nov. 06....
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Re: Not just any earmark...

Earmarks for schools are not bad earmarks. It's bridges to nowhere that are bad earmarks. Every one of us benefits from some of the good earmarks that go to our states. Saying all earmarks are bad is just plain dumb.
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Earmarks for schools are not bad earmarks. It's bridges to nowhere that are bad earmarks. Every one of us benefits from some of the good earmarks that go to our states. Saying all earmarks are bad is just plain dumb.
This earmark is bad. The DOT is in a funding crisis (the FAA in particular) and the funds for this earmark can be put to a better use.
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Re: Not just any earmark...

Earmarks are bad PERIOD. If Congress is going to specify to that level of detail how particular appropriations would be spent, they should be part of the bill, subject to debate.

I am not a McCain supporter, but one of the few positive things I can say about him is that I could actually see him declaring a complete moratorium on expenditures on earmarks by Federal Agencies.
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Re: Not just any earmark...

Personally I believe that if a Congressman believes soooo much in an earmark that he wishes to push it through, then he should be willing to spend 10% of his salary on it. I bet that would drastically cut down on pork spending.
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Re: Not just any earmark...

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Earmarks for schools are not bad earmarks. It's bridges to nowhere that are bad earmarks. Every one of us benefits from some of the good earmarks that go to our states. Saying all earmarks are bad is just plain dumb.
Just for once suspend your notion that all government spending is good spending.

The very practice of earmarks is objectionable...

I don't care what the individual earmark is for...they are all bad. Stealth spending is bad. Real bad.
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Re: Not just any earmark...

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Just for once suspend your notion that all government spending is good spending.

The very practice of earmarks is objectionable...

I don't care what the individual earmark is for...they are all bad. Stealth spending is bad. Real bad.

I have to agree 100% here is a little story
A line item veto was approved by the republican congress and senate during the clinton admin. But was taken away by his own party and the supreme court
here is the link
Supreme Court Strikes Down Line-Item Veto - June 25, 1998


clinton cut hundreds of millions of dollars be it was stoped by his own partys
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