If that was the case, that still wouldn't explain the disproportionate numbers. Wouldn't mothers of all colors take advantage of the system then?

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I think that's part of the problem. You can make a pretty good argument that welfare was to a large extent a get out the vote program for the Democrats, and from that perspective I'd say that it worked pretty well. It certainly hasn't helped lift blacks out of poverty, and IMO it was never intended to.

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I'd say that the reason there is a higher percentage of blacks on welfare is because black communities tend to have far fewer resources than most white communities.

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I can't find statistics for anything past 1999, but in 1999 white families made up 30.5% of all welfare cases, black families 38.3%, hispanic families 24.5%. So while 63.2% of black families were single parent families in 2000, it sounds like a lot of them are working.

TANF “Leavers”, Applicants, and Caseload Studies: Preliminary Analysis of Racial Differences in Caseload Trends and Leaver Outcomes

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Well, that would indicate that a much greater percentage of blacks are on welfare, as they're a considerably smaller population than whites. But sure, they're are plenty who work good and hard.

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Blah. I didn't want to give myself this headache trying to crunch various statistics when I ultimately don't believe the decisions to be a single parent, to not remain in a family, or whatever else on the existence of a social program. If there was no welfare I think the stats would remain relatively the same, and I digress to Scribbler and his comments. I would disagree with Pogo's statement that there is an equal need for change on the individual and policy level. I think the community as a whole could overcome the problems long before government could have an affect.

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Absolutely - however what business in their right mind would want to locate in areas of near barbarism?...again - it is a combination approach that will work.
Simply saying "we have fewer resources" is like blowing smoke in the wind.

Bullshit.

You want reparations and you know it, because you feel slighted by "whitey"...

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75% of black families were two parent families in 1900. 75% of black families were two parent families in 1950.

So the destruction of black families wasn't caused by slavery but something that happened in the last 50 years. Welfare.

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During the days of slavery a black child was more likely to grow up living with both parents than he or she is today. Andrew J. Cherlin, Marriage, Divorce, Remarriage, rev. and enl. ed., (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 1992), 110 . See also Herbert G. Gutman, The Black Family in Slavery and Freedom, 1750-1925 (New York: Pantheon, 1976). For a review of this and similar studies see Stanley L. Engerman, "Black Fertility and Family Structure in the U.S. 1880-1940," Journal of Family History 2 (Summer 1977): 177ff.

As recently as 1960, three-quarters of African Americans were born into a family of a married couple. Christopher Jencks, "Is the American Underclass Growing," 86, Table 14. In Jencks and Peterson, eds., Urban Underclass, (Washington, D.C.: Brookings Institution, 1991).

"Today only [one-third] of black children have two parents in the home."
Dennis A. Ahlburg and Carol J. DeVita, "New Realities of the American Family," Population Bulletin 47, no.2 (August 1992)

"Black children are only half as likely as white children to be living in a two-parent household, and are eight times more likely than white children to live with an unwed mother. For black children under six, 'the most common arrangement -- applying to 42 percent of them -- was to live with a never-married mother.'" ~ Andrew J. Cherlin, Marriage, Divorce, Remarriage, rev. and enl. ed., (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 1992), 98-99.

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Yeah...she must be Republican...or work for Fox news

Sorry but it takes more than just write it to make it a point. Spot on.
(Just a note: I don't think that it's unlikely that welfare might have had an impact on that quota)

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I'd say she was a jackass in general, and as to getting eyed, I have seen many white "ghetto hoods" and hispanics eyed up and followed through a store, no thats not an exuse.
Is that it?

It wasn’t a matter of proof, it was matter of my trying to get a sense of what you see as discrimination and how often it really occurs.

Its hard to do over the internet, I have had discussion with blacks and they make a case for ongoing discrimination and when I ask them to name the last 3-4 times they were discriminated against, they look at me, then spend about 30 seconds trying to think of one......

You see the problem here in a public sense is, the public at large has been told to fear black males, and unfortunately due to “image” fostered and held dearly to many, it drives an angst that, when a kid comes in a store (no not you and I don’t know how you dress), and are wearing sagging pants the hat backwards, the wife beater t shirt etc. they are automatically classified by the guard as possible trouble. I would say that back in the 50’s, when I saw picture of my father , swarthy as he is Sicilian and in his black jacket he definitely got the same treatment, and has told me so, the Irish cops who by and large peopled the precinct of the borough he lived in, Brooklyn, knew "who" were caused the trouble by and large, so some wop walking into a candy store owned by another wop, would still get the eye, in that sense its not black and white, its reacting to the environment that surrounds you, because the “profiling” at large assigned them in peoples minds as bigger risks that granny etc.

I am NOT saying that its right, or that is it always that simple; discrimination exists, but that an urban legend has arisen, that this type of thing constitutes discrimination because of the color of your skin, when a lot of it has do to the unfortunate stereotype that has been perpetuated and in fact peddled by the community at large.

I’ll give you an example- are there more black men in the age demographic 18-25 in prison or in college? 80% of blacks themselves will automatically answer prison, that’s incorrect and an awful and powerful mindset to have to overcome.

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So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

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As far as the 40 acres and a mule, well I would answer, racial preferences- quotas, affirmative action, sbl’s, social services created to cater directly to that sect of populace etc.

You tell me- why in predominantly black neighborhoods, businesses owned are not predominately owned by blacks?

Why, in the 20’s 30’s 40’s when there was a huge, disparate ( race, creed, nationality ) and linguistically challenged class populaces in schools, the level of education was higher, the drop out rate much lower and safer?

Why it is, when I visit the project I lived in till I was 10 and ½ which was clean, free of graffiti and safe, then, is now a war zone? Decrepit, torn apart, filthy.

in what way are we failing?

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


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Steve, believe it or not, resale stores can be very upscale. It's a great way to get rid of prom or bridesmaid dresses that were only worn once and it makes a lot of sense to shop there for special occasions. I bought my last ball gown from one. Why? Because I got a $250 dress for $85 and it looked brand new!!! Now, why would I spend $250 on a dress that I know I'll only wear once when someone else was already crazy enough to do that? My late husband once thought the way you do until he saw the dresses that I'd bring home and though we could easily afford to buy the new ones, he was quite proud that I didn't (it meant more R/C airplane stuff for him)!!!

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Certainly there are nice ones.

The ones I saw in Houston, , looked like slums...

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