I don't even know how to feel about this issue anymore.....
I feel beat to my knees....the positive is forgotten and no where to found and the negative ALWAYS extenuated...always.....


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The House of Representatives was poised Tuesday to pass a resolution apologizing to African-Americans for slavery and the era of Jim Crow.


The House is poised to pass a resolution that would apologize for slavery and Jim Crow.

The nonbinding resolution, which is expected to pass, was introduced by Rep. Steve Cohen, a white lawmaker who represents a majority black district in Memphis, Tennessee.

While many states have apologized for slavery, it will be first time a branch of the federal government will apologize for slavery if the resolution passes, an aide to Cohen said.

By passing the resolution, the House would also acknowledge the "injustice, cruelty, brutality and inhumanity of slavery and Jim Crow."

"Jim Crow," or Jim Crow laws, were state and local laws enacted mostly in the Southern and border states of the United States between the 1870s and 1965, when African-Americans were denied the right to vote and other civil liberties and were legally segregated from whites.

The name "Jim Crow" came from a character played by T.D. "Daddy" Rice who portrayed a slave while in blackface during the mid-1800s.

The resolution states that "the vestiges of Jim Crow continue to this day."

"African-Americans continue to suffer from the consequences of slavery and Jim Crow -- long after both systems were formally abolished -- through enormous damage and loss, both tangible and intangible, including the loss of human dignity and liberty, the frustration of careers and professional lives, and the long-term loss of income and opportunity," the resolution states.

The House would also commit itself to stopping "the occurrence of human rights violations in the future," if it passes the resolution.

House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow - CNN.com

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So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

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Well Jim Crowe and Slavery where indeed negative things so when they are the subject it does seem natural to focus on the negative since that's the subject itself.

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The Congress was the institution which abolished it in the first place right? They don't need to apologize.

I am sick and tired of all the people in certain political groups who want to make monuments to apologize for slavery and genocides which happened before I was even born. They want to make us feel guilty and evil. I'm not guilty, I'm not evil, and I don't owe any ethnic group anything.

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I'm so glad that the majority party, having stated their belief that they were elected with a firm mandate to end the war, and in the middle of a burgeoning economic crisis, found the time to tackle an issue of such great importance in 2008.



Matt

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Oh for Pete's sake.........

That’s the trap; we as whites were and ever more will be "guilty"..the time has passed where any sense can be made of the issue because politically the dems are tied to the blacks and those blacks who need the angst to build their political base have taken over.
The moral imperative no longer exists where in a white person can say to a black, you are wrong or this is not working and we need to change how we do business etc. ala even the self destructive aspects of the black community. The whites “guilt” must be their advantage.

We allow districts to be created and perpetrated where in a white man cannot be elected, because the district is “minority” there by always guaranteeing that the same old pot is stirred to keep it safe and in their hands.....

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


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When is the Congressional resolution apologizing for the Original Sin?

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Plenty of such laws in the industrial north and well before 1865. The north did not want free slaves as the were cheap competition for their jobs. They made it very unattractive to venture north. Made Lincoln's war very unpopular as well. Kind of explains the racism that's very prevalent up there to this day.

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“One is a well turned-out, good-looking, and let's be honest, pretty sexy piece of eye-candy.

“The other kills her own food.”

good question, how about we use the emancipation proclamation , or go further back to the 3/5ths compromise? The framers knew that the days of slavery would come to a close and would not last, to bad it took the war to do it.

As a a flat out sorry, from a gov. that had zero to do with it, what that accomplishes is beyond me, it would sound hollow and self serving. I think we have done our level best to atone; in fact we have bent over backwards from a purely historical perspective.

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


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agreed.

But how long must we be beat up for the faults of a few of our great great great great grandfathers?

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


Mortgage Backed Security survivor

Just "sorry"? No "Super Sorry"?

Assholes!

I don't know about you, but my great, great, great, great grandfather was long dead in the 1960s.

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I'm still awaiting to hear an apology from the African tribes who raided weaker tribes to sell blacks to the slave buyers...if it wasn't for their work slavery would have certainly been on a smaller scale.
Course we also have to blame God for creating black people in the first place - what was he thinking? - he should have made everyone exactly the same ...not very progressive.

Maybe we can get a UN resolution passed so Darfor and Sudan can apologise for their slave trade of africans from last week (and next month too)?

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I demand that all of the English apologize for the way they treated my great grandparents and theirs and theirs.... My life will be complete when "the man" is made to own up to the mistakes he made. Who cares if "the man" is long dead?

This is a ridiculous waste of time.

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