Despite the environmental concerns, it's a terrible business decision. The Energy Information Agency says that even with the lifted ban on drilling, it would be an average of 5 to 7 years before we see any of that oil, and they predict that it wouldn't affect gas prices until about 10 years after that, but even then it wouldn't affect gas prices since all that new production would generate something like 2% more oil domestically while oil companies would probably just sell the oil to nations where the oil demand keeps shooting up.

And yet, despite this fact, some conservatives believe this is the only way, case closed. People who believe in putting so much faith in the oil lobby are just crack whores and junkies simply dependent on their pimps. They just don't get it yet, but the oil companies aren't looking out for us, have no interest in helping or saving us. Yet conservatives think that if they get more corporate welfare and subsidies, that'll save us or something. Ridiculous.

That's just plain wrong. Think about it for just 3 seconds... If there's a weather report predicting a hurricane in the Gulf, prices immediately rise. Why? Because the price is dictated by speculation. The price increases based on what might happen in the future.

Likewise, when congress finally gets off their collective ass and lifts the ban, prices will immediately drop, based on what will happen in the future.

And it doesn't matter where the oil goes. In the US, or, to the world market. It increases supply. That's all it needs to do.

The rest of your post is just worthless sputtering.

Not only is there a News Black out on the House not voting , but it conitues here...... no one fraking cares...

here is an email that I received from her office...



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Subject: vote

Please bring the House back for a vote, yes or no just let the House of
Congress vote on the drilling bill.
Let the people vote on the bill.
Bring back the House.
(name here)

Now what is really great is the address that she gave for me to write to................


IT does not work................ is that not just great?

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hehehe... the ol' "I don't have to talk to you..." trick. Are you surprised?

Thought that this was to be a new government , OPEN?????

Looks to not be the case.............

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New Government=one that the President likes a GOP idea but then the Staff puts that Idea in a very DEEP HOLE.

Read HR143 get enlightment.

The Revolution Will not be Televised

It looks like my posts got intertwined with some other ones, and I was misquoted early on and those comments got replied to several times. No real harm there, but please be sure you are quoting accurately if you are going to respond to someone's post specifically.

I'm glad there is an ongoing discussion on this issue, however, I have failed to see a convincing argument as to why drilling in ANWR is as crucial a step as some are making it out to be. Perhaps I'm misinformed, perhaps I'm just flat wrong, but it really irriates me when someone that raises concerns over environmental damage is immediately called ignorant and uneducated on the issue. It seems to me that there are better ways to discuss an issue than saying "I'm right, you're wrong".

Josh

The "I'm right, you're wrong" is one of the main stays for many of the posters here.... and it shows no sign of changing any time soon.

I notice that most here are in the dark like the media when it comes to what happened on Friday in the House.

Right or Wrong on the off shore drilling, not letting it come to a vote shows just how Pelosi is going to save the planet, by making sure that the poor have no chance now or in the future.

Just Who is standing up for the little person?
DNC? GOP?
Who?

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Government Should Fear the People That Voted Them In!!

New Government=one that the President likes a GOP idea but then the Staff puts that Idea in a very DEEP HOLE.

Read HR143 get enlightment.

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To my mind, people who insist on drilling in Alaska or offshore are like those people who compulsively push the button multiple times when they are tired of waiting for an elevator. There isn't any good reason to do it, other than "it feels right" - or is there an energy expert who believe that more drilling will have anything more than a neglible effect on prices? I haven't heard of any.

Then why not a vote not to drill? All that is getting asked for is a Vote on the House floor, yes or no..
But the Queen Pelosi will not even do that...WHY?

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Read HR143 get enlightment.

The Revolution Will not be Televised

I think the point is that an issue gets debated on the floor and elected representatives vote on it. That's how our democracy works. Pelosi shouldn't be able to block a vote on her personal beliefs.

If it's such a clear issue, then the elected representatives of the people should get to vote.

Approximately 2 weeks ago, Bush lifted the executive ban on drilling in ANWR and the OCS. Since then and beginning the very next day, the price per bbl has dropped from $147 to $119. The price at the pump (locally) has dropped from an average of $4.18 per gal. to $3.86 per gal. I don't know of any other reason for the decrease. It's getting very little attention by the media, but, if there's some other reason, they'd be talking about it.

If congress were to vote to also lift the ban, the price would drop even more dramatic, as that would clear the way for drilling.

But, I enjoy analogies, too. Here's mine:
People who are against drilling our own oil reserves are like the guy who wakes up one day and decides he doesn't like his job anymore... and quits. With no plan for how he's going to earn a living, pay the bills, buy his food, etc. It's OK to decide you want a career change, but, you don't quit your current job until you have, at least, a solid idea of what you're going to do to replace it.

With that, I say it's absolute that we need to be looking for new energy resources. I don't think we're going to find it in solar, hydrogen or wind. Those have been around long enough and there's been many very smart people working on ways to make them viable, with little success. And, we use petroleum for more than just gasoline, or heating. Many products you use everyday are made with petroleum. We're going to need it for a very long time.

Even if we knew what the replacement for petroleum would be for our energy needs, it will be years building the infra structure for that to happen. Think... electricity. How long did it take to build the current infra structure, or, even one that was widely working? Years... decades.

We need to think logically. To simply say we are going to replace oil with another energy source, so, we have no need to explore and drill is irresponsible.