Do you think Clinton might accept a job as Senate majority leader? I can't stand the spineless and depressing Harry Reid and the Dems would do well to put a new face on congress in 09. What do you think?

It would be difficult to do worse than Harry Reid.

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I don't see how Hillary would be much different though. She's just as unprincipled as Reid.

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No but shes a great deal more centrist/opportunist, just as bill was, shes also wheeler dealer, oh she’ll try the usual shit, but at the end of the day shes 5 times smarter than Reid and Pelosi put together imho, and will compromise while grinding out deals that make the gov. work. Add to that, I CAN see her being a greatd deal tougher, than the creme puff, obama, regards dealing with Iran et al. Identity politics has shot istself in its own foot. Even if Barry wins, you'll see.

Reid and Pelosi have been disasters, no I am not a dem and those who are may feel different, but I don’t see how, their record is as thin and corrupt as those they replaced with even less accomplishments legislatively, add to that that the huge congressional lead they had in the run up to this election , has almost evaporated, that takes work let me tell you.


I never thought I would say this, ever, but right now, despite my despising her on a personal level, IF she were the dem candidate, I would very very seriously consider voting for her. Go figure.

As to the OP, I can definitely see Pelosi getting canned after the election if Barry wins. That’s would be a great first step towards “change”……but I am not holding my breath.

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I don't know if HRC has enough time in grade to be leader; I'm thinking some others in that party might have their noses put out of joint. But anyone is better than Reid.

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I like Clinton. She's a kick ass chick. My kinda girl! Don't necessarily agree with her but she's a damned sight better than most of the DNC. If she was running against McCain, we'd have a serious contest. Hell, I might even have voted for her!

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If the DNC hadn't boned Michigan and Florida, you may have had that chance.

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They should try putting a new (this time rational) set of policies on Congress rather than trying to trick people with "a new face."

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I was under the impression those states boned themselves by breaking the party rules. The DNC is a private organization. They are not legally bound to any kind of "fairness" other than what THEY see as fair.

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Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.

Unfortunately, these private organizations have the power to disenfranchise voters, as they did. The current system allows for this power, but the fact that they used their power and DID disenfranchise so many voters is very uncool.

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You do know the Rep's did the same thing.

I know the GOP did something similar. It still does not make it cool what the either of the parties did.

But, if you insist on making my post partisan (as you've tried to do before, but failed miserably at doing so), I suppose we could hash out the differences.

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Hillary would rock as majority leader, and if Obama wins, she's a good bet to get it.
If Obama loses, and people feel she didn't try "hard enough" to get him elected it may be a tough sell.

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I'm not sure I'd say anyone was disenfranchised as primaries are nothing more than private party mechanisms that we the tax payers, for some reason, get to pay for. Unless its a real election, that term really should not apply.

That being said, the DNC screwed up with it as evidenced by their seating the delegates anyway.

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

“What's the difference between Sarah Palin and Barack Obama?”

“One is a well turned-out, good-looking, and let's be honest, pretty sexy piece of eye-candy.

“The other kills her own food.”

I agree that it would be a good thing, but for different reasons.

I heard back in about 05 or so that Reid told collegues that he wanted to step aside and would be "whipping up votes" rather than be the majority leader so clearly the Dems have learnt the lesson of having a majority leader being held hostage by his base from a Red state being a bad idea.

I guess you figured you were untouchable until Daschle got the boot, imagine us kicking out the incumbent majority leader twice in 6 years.... Also with the majority he'd have in the next session....

I think it was also the time the immigration bill was flying about through the Senate and his numbers were at like 19% so it made sense.

But more so thn that it all but cripples Hillarry's ability to run for the Presidency but most importantly stops Obama from nominating her to the SC, because there's no way she's going from first lady to Senator, to leader to SC/President. Pigs will fly before that happens. Though if Obama wins i guess that takes the Presidency option off the table for her altogether.