Originally Posted by Mrs. M

Ohhh, but nothing beats a brisket smoked with the mesquite the kids gathered from the ranch! YUM!!!! BTW, I saw plenty of cows on my last trip to TX...and horses...and other farm animals.

Originally Posted by Jefe

I think we should send all cons to Texas. They seem to like bullshit.

Hey, these broad, sweeping generalizations are fun!

Originally Posted by Jefe

I... I'm.... I'm trying to wrap my feeble "librul" mind around what you're saying... but gosh, I'm just so stupid.



I don't actually want to 'send' people anywhere. Swoop187 is the brainiac who wants to segragate the country in to two nice neat little compartments.

Got that?

Originally Posted by Jefe

I... I'm.... I'm trying to wrap my feeble "librul" mind around what you're saying... but gosh, I'm just so stupid.



I don't actually want to 'send' people anywhere. Swoop187 is the brainiac who wants to segragate the country in to two nice neat little compartments.

Got that?

Originally Posted by Rahmota

That is what we need to do to help prevent this nation falling into thrid world status. The Constitution is a document that no longer reflects the world we live in. It was fine for the time period in which it was written, 200 years ago. But the world ahs moved on those fools who are trying to impose a document that old on the modern world by sayign that the constitution is a firm and unchangeing, unchangeable carved in stone set of rules might as well by using the magna carta or the code of hammurabi. All outdated and useless and no longer applicable to the modern world.

what needs to be done is to scrap the old constitution and either write a new one that reflects the modern world more accurately and appropriately or adopt a set of documents that have already been written that more than adequately describes the requirments of modern civilized nations. That would be a model for the US to reconfigure itself into. A set of rules that all humans could live & thrive under. Well all but the right wing extremist sickos.A set of laws that would help protect every citizen of the united states unlike the current constitution which was just a throw together compromise document that has only been hled together with patchwork jury rigging and compromises. The document i am referring to that is so much superior to the Constitution is:
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights

A beutiful document that is more appropriate and more beneficial and more well written than the flawed and outdated US Constitution. Look at this preamble:


So I say burn the Constitution. Throw its ashes away. It was never intended to be the end all and be all of the governing documents. It was never intended to be strictly and unchangingly interpreted anyhow. It was meant to be a fluid and open set of documents. But its time has come and gone. It is a relic of an era that exists no more. There is precedent in the US history of throwing away a failure like the Constitution and starting over with somethign better. That is what this country truely needs to do.

Originally Posted by solletica

The Constitution shouldn't be scrapped. It's a valuable resource for those who have the $$ to buy its protections.

Originally Posted by The Naked Communist by Cleon Skousen

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

Originally Posted by Jefe

I... I'm.... I'm trying to wrap my feeble "librul" mind around what you're saying... but gosh, I'm just so stupid.



I don't actually want to 'send' people anywhere. Swoop187 is the brainiac who wants to segragate the country in to two nice neat little compartments.

Got that?

Originally Posted by Swoop187

That is quite obvious and that's why political segregation would be a good thing. That way both sides can run them selves how they see fit.

End of the fucking problem and the bullshit power struggle.

Originally Posted by Jefe

I... I'm.... I'm trying to wrap my feeble "librul" mind around what you're saying... but gosh, I'm just so stupid.



I don't actually want to 'send' people anywhere. Swoop187 is the brainiac who wants to segragate the country in to two nice neat little compartments.

Got that?

Originally Posted by jviehe

Do you guys really think Rhamota is interested in seriously discussing his claims? Until he provides some facts to back up his claims as to the purpose of the constitution, and the intent of the founders as to its application, there really is no point in arguing. His op was a rant, nothing more.

Originally Posted by Jefe

Now see, I was just playing along with what I thought was sarcasm... "We should send all libs to the Northeast"... "We should send all cons to Texas"... but you actually believe this kind of crap, don't you?

Do you actually believe the country should be divided up like this? Cuz, that would kinda go against people's freedoms.

Originally Posted by Jefe

Now see, I was just playing along with what I thought was sarcasm... "We should send all libs to the Northeast"... "We should send all cons to Texas"... but you actually believe this kind of crap, don't you?

Do you actually believe the country should be divided up like this? Cuz, that would kinda go against people's freedoms.

Originally Posted by Mrs. M

I drove from just north of New Orleans to Temple via Austin cuz Map Quest gave me some really stupid directions! Anyway, on the drive, I passed ranch after ranch but something that was cool was that every time I came upon a car, they pulled to the shoulder of the road and let me pass. When I asked my friend about it, she said that it was just a courtesy they show there in TX.

Originally Posted by Jefe

Judging by the Texans we have here on the forum, I'd say that most people from Texas are pretty awsome.

Just to be clear folks... I was joking earlier when I said we should send all cons to Texas.

Originally Posted by Jefe

Judging by the Texans we have here on the forum, I'd say that most people from Texas are pretty awesome.

Just to be clear folks... I was joking earlier when I said we should send all cons to Texas.

Originally Posted by California Girl

Liberals don't have a sense of humor...