but he and Boxer introducing it in the Senate anyway

Interesting tack, they are caliming its a starting point and expect loads of involvement with moderates and GOP.

I doubt it has a chance but they have to give it a whirl. Probably why Kerry and Boxer are stuck trying to run with it.

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

Kerry and the Dems want to change the debate. They know they're losing the "cap and trade" debate, so now it's "pollution reduction". Still no evidence that CO2 is pollution when 90% of the life forms on Earth can't survive without it.

they LOST C&T so yes, have to re-frame it.

have to make a believable case against CO2 but the kicker is that C&T will do nothing to help "global climate warming change" and still cost (at least) a trillion a year.

money for nothing and a LOT of money at that.

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

Not for nothing. For Goldman Sachs, Al Gore, foreign and Federal government coffers.

yeah, that. but thats the main reason for govt spending.

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

The dems have high confidence because they are gifted when it comes to fixing things. Take California for instance, it's the model of democrat/liberal leadership and they are certainly in a fix. Just a shining example the economic impact of over legislation and government oppression.

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Want government run healthcare? Join the military.

That which we call crap, by any other name would still smell as bad ...

Do these stupid politicians not get it? We don't want them to rename something bad. We want them to knock off the bad stuff.

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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, ... That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,"
-Declaration of Independence

Two truths that many Americans seem to have forgotten:
1. Men are endowed by God with inalienable rights.
2. Government's purpose is to secure man's God-given rights.

Reid is trying to keep his seat

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

He's up for reelection here in Nevada and, to quote a friend of mine, "I am hoping that we can send the Senator from Searchlight back to Searchlight."

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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, ... That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,"
-Declaration of Independence

Two truths that many Americans seem to have forgotten:
1. Men are endowed by God with inalienable rights.
2. Government's purpose is to secure man's God-given rights.

he is a liability and I'm not sure how much longer he can be tolerated.

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand