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Re: Write your own Amendment

Congress, by a two-thirds vote of each house and upon signature of the President, shall have the power to invalidated any federal court precedent within four years of its ruling. But no such invalidation shall alter the outcome to particular parties to the case in which the precedent was establish.
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Re: Write your own Amendment

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Congress, by a two-thirds vote of each house and upon signature of the President, shall have the power to invalidated any federal court precedent within four years of its ruling. But no such invalidation shall alter the outcome to particular parties to the case in which the precedent was establish.


while i like the concept of a check on the judiciary related to seperation of powers, perhaps it is better to have the Leg and Exec be able to demand a SCOTUS review.

of course if its a SCOTUS issue, that probably demands legislative change.

in any event, good one !
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while i like the concept of a check on the judiciary related to seperation of powers, perhaps it is better to have the Leg and Exec be able to demand a SCOTUS review.

of course if its a SCOTUS issue, that probably demands legislative change.

in any event, good one !
How about adding language that restricts it only to precedent established in cases not pending appeal (that way the judicial process is not short-circuited by legislative action until after Supreme Court Review or final disposition of the case)
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How about adding language that restricts it only to precedent established in cases not pending appeal (that way the judicial process is not short-circuited by legislative action until after Supreme Court Review or final disposition of the case)

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From this day forward no more laws shall be created. Congress will now only focus on removing unneeded legislation.
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Congress, by a two-thirds vote of each house and upon signature of the President, shall have the power to invalidated any federal court precedent within four years of its ruling. But no such invalidation shall alter the outcome to particular parties to the case in which the precedent was establish.
They can do that now, can't they? Just rewrite the law.
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How about this.

There shall be no public purchase or ownership, in part or whole, of any private commercial venture.

The intent of which is to prohibit govt from bailing out or buying shares in companies.
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repeal 17th (a bad idea to begin with) and 26th (an abject failure I'm sorry to say in light of how hard I worked for it)
So if we were to repeal the 26th Amendment you would then also advocate raising the age of military enlistment and selective service to 21 as well, right?
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Re: Write your own Amendment

LEGISLATION

Passage of Laws

Section 1.

No law shall be passed except by bill, and no bill shall be so altered or amended, on its passage through either House, as to change its original purpose.

Form of Bills

Section 2.

No bill shall be passed containing more than one subject, which shall be clearly expressed in its title, except a general appropriation bill or a bill codifying or compiling the law or a part thereof.
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They can do that now, can't they? Just rewrite the law.
No, the point is that they should be able to override court decisions/precedents invalidating or misinterpreting laws or the Constitution, rather than rewritting the law.
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LEGISLATION

Passage of Laws

Section 1.

No law shall be passed except by bill, and no bill shall be so altered or amended, on its passage through either House, as to change its original purpose.

Form of Bills

Section 2.

No bill shall be passed containing more than one subject, which shall be clearly expressed in its title, except a general appropriation bill or a bill codifying or compiling the law or a part thereof.
I would vote for that. Maybe we could put term limits and balanced budget requirement in too.
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How about this.

There shall be no public purchase or ownership, in part or whole, of any private commercial venture.

The intent of which is to prohibit govt from bailing out or buying shares in companies.
I like the intent of the amendment, but there are exceptions that should be considered.... I doubt something like this would ever happen, but say Wal-Mart hit the bucket for one reason or another. That's two million jobs lost right there (I doubt any single company can cause more pain than Wal-Mart can if it failed).
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LEGISLATION

Passage of Laws

Section 1.

No law shall be passed except by bill, and no bill shall be so altered or amended, on its passage through either House, as to change its original purpose.

Form of Bills

Section 2.

No bill shall be passed containing more than one subject, which shall be clearly expressed in its title, except a general appropriation bill or a bill codifying or compiling the law or a part thereof.
Speaking as a lawyer, did you ever have to deal with problematic laws that became so convoluted over time that they lost their original meaning?
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Re: Write your own Amendment

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Amendment 14

1. All persons born of persons in the United States who themselves are citizens or here under valid visas or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Presumably this has 2 effects. It makes corporations not people (since they weren't born of a person). And it makes the children born of illegal immigrants non-citizens.

My only question is, presuming you catch the child at some point in his life, and lets say his parents are deceased .... where do you deport him? He's not a citizen of ANYWHERE. Send him to palestine?
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Re: Write your own Amendment

Amendments:

A. The term of the president is a single 6-year term, a president may not be re-elected to the presidency. A VP who became president and served more than 4 years as president is ineligible to be elected to the presidency.



B. Corporations, companies, and legal groupings of people shall not be considered persons. Any rights guaranteed or protected by the constitution for US citizens are not necessarily protected or guaranteed for such groupings of people.



C. Congress's pay shall decrease by the same percentage as the federal deficit and be calculated each fiscal year. Pay raises for the congress are determined by the president no less than 6 years in advance.



D. We were serious when we ratified the 9th amendment as part of the bill of rights. Attention Supreme Court Justices, Congress, and the President: quit fucking with our shit.
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