But from a historical perspective, these current guys are actually pretty civil. At least no one has challenged anyone to a duel or anything.
Well, I think both sides just like the power and aren't much different from each other. I mean, there are plenty of left wing communities that do much better than their right wing brethren (Virginia, for example, where the liberal north pretty much bankrolls the entire conservative rest of the state) and neither side is exempt from wanting to take advantage of any sort of powers.

Both sides just want power and they just want the other side to shut the hell up.

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It's not even close when you compare successful conservative communities to successful liberal communities.

There are also plenty of successful conservative communities in Va. I was born in one.

I honestly disagree that liberal Va. bankrolls the state.

It depends on your definition of 'successful'. Large cities tend to be more liberal. Large cities tend to create wealth, there are more millionaires in cities than anywhere else. There also happens to be more homeless and destitute in large cities.

In conservative areas, largely more 'rural' or 'smalltown', the rich aren't as rich and the poor aren't as poor as they are in cities.

So which is more successful?

Different dynamics are in play in small communities vs large communities.

I'll second that.

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It's true, though:

Will Northern Virginia Become the 51st State? - News & Features (washingtonian.com)

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And you'd be the second to be wrong. Northern Virginia, a tiny fraction of Virginia, makes nearly half of the money for the entire state and sees far less of it.

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cities are more liberal, I'll give you that

create wealth ? they also piss it away like drunks and Richmond bucks the create wealth trend

in VA the big money is NOT in the cities

poor less poor outside the cities ? maybe. prolly because they dont insist on cell phones and the like

and outside the cities the poor do better in school

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Interesting story, I'm going to look more in to this.

However, liberals are not elected because an overwhelming majority of them want to give their money away.

It is a pretty interesting read. I find the idea of secession to be pretty ridiculous, but a decent article altogether.
Yes, to the rest of Virginia, apparently.

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I would be delighted to give NOVa to DC or MD. Free, just back the truck up to it and its yours.

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Although I've been to about 35 of the 50 states, I've never been to VA.

I picture VA residents as hillbillies that dropped out of school in 8th grade vs dropping out in 6th grade like the rest of the Appalachian states.

How far off am I?

And most of us would be happy to..
You're pretty accurate for about 90% of the state. NOVA, VA Beach and a few other spots are pretty nice. This coming from someone who was born, raised and still resides in this state.

The constant bickering between NOVA and the rest of the state shows the divide pretty well.

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The rural states also tend to receive more tax money than they pay. I guess its ok when 'librul' states pay more taxes to work-ethic conservative states.

TaxProf Blog: Red States Feed at Federal Trough, Blue States Supply the Feed

Pretty typical view from a liberal that overvalues their self worth.

Hey, come on now, according to him we passed a whole two more grades than other Appalachian states.

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