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Old 11-28-2009
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ethanol: it aint over till your catalytic convertor sings..

Is there truly nothing these morons, these dolts cannot fuc up? I mean for god sakes what’s next....seriously.This is exactly what happens when the Guberment gets involved on the free market....the market changes and we take it in the shorts , again. Yea run my health care, please.




In theory, the Environmental Protection Agency has the power to solve this problem by tweaking the mandates imposed by Congress, and it may act as early as next week.

Each potential solution would anger one interest group or another, so the agency has been subjected to fierce lobbying, including from members of Congress lining up behind various factions. One possibility is to raise the maximum proportion of ethanol in gasoline to 15 or 20 percent.
But that idea is opposed by some carmakers and pollution experts. They contend that high ethanol blends can cause damage to cars, including making catalytic converters run hotter.

The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers says it believes this could cause the converters, components that help control pollution, to fail at around 50,000 miles. They are supposed to last for 120,000 to 150,000 miles. “We are sensitive to the issues facing the ethanol industry, but the government must make decisions based on sound science,” said Dave McCurdy, president and chief executive of the alliance, in a letter to the E.P.A.

Another possibility is that the agency could waive the mandates requiring use of a large volume of biofuels. But that would anger farmers, who sell a great deal of corn to ethanol factories, and the members of Congress who represent them. It might also undermine the efforts of companies that are investing millions in factories to make ethanol from waste materials, like corncobs, straw and garbage.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/27/bu...mPo61HmnZqTvPA
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re: ethanol: it aint over till your catalytic convertor sings..

All I know is my corn flakes have gotten awfully expensive....
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Old 11-29-2009
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Re: ethanol: it aint over till your catalytic convertor sings..

Yes they don't want to piss off the environmental evangelist or the farmers (who I wouldn't be surprised if they are lobbying for this) but they don't care about pissing off the American people by causing poor performance in their cars and their catalytic converters to wear out sooner.

This is just another example of a government gone out of control. We no longer have a government for the people but a government by the special interest, of the special interest and for the special interest. The American people be dammed!

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Re: ethanol: it aint over till your catalytic convertor sings..

There is only one thing a catalytic converter is good for, sound dampening.
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Re: ethanol: it aint over till your catalytic convertor sings..

As long as the Iowa caucuses are the opening of the Presidential primaries, Ethanol is secure.
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Re: ethanol: it aint over till your catalytic convertor sings..

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There is only one thing a catalytic converter is good for, sound dampening.
Not so fast, the catalytic converter does reduce a great deal of emissions from the engine.

It is a good sound damper though - most people don't want to drive a car that sounds like a lawn mower.
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It is a good sound damper though - most people don't want to drive a car that sounds like a lawn mower.
On the contrary, I wouldn't want to ride a lawn mower that sounded like my car when the CC fell off.
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