When we throw things at them? Are you kidding? I have no intention of agreeing with you and Maher and saluting those murderers for their bravery and courage. Unbelievable.

What conceivable reason could you possible have for defending Maher's admiration for their courage, and then lecturing other people for being mean to terrorists? You and Maher can stand up and proclaim their courage. I prefer not to indulge in such lunacy.

__________________
My good blade carves the casques of men,
My tough lance thrusteth sure,
My strength is as the strength of ten,
Because my heart is pure.

"Sir Galahad," by Alfred, Lord Tennyson (1834)

You can put words into my mouth all you want. I do not solute anybody and yes they are murderers. That is a accurate statement.

I defend Maher because he chooses to use accurate statements such as murderers rather than inaccurate ones such as cowards. I care more about the truth than what makes us feel good. Sorry.

Those were his words?

I know, thank goodness he didn't say that. (I don't see that in what you posted)

He said he was moved and impressed?

No we dont and again (according to the words you posted) he didn't say that.

__________________
"And today the great Yertle, that Marvelous he,
Is King of the Mud. That is all he can see.
And the turtles, of course... all the turtles are free
As turtles and, maybe, all creatures should be." - Dr. Suess

It's easy to be indignant when you're railing against something that the other person didn't say.

__________________


Question those who think themselves above questioning.

I know I could never understand that.

Oh my GAWD Tim! Please link to where partofme ever said anything like that! You implying that he did is what is unbelievable.

__________________
"And today the great Yertle, that Marvelous he,
Is King of the Mud. That is all he can see.
And the turtles, of course... all the turtles are free
As turtles and, maybe, all creatures should be." - Dr. Suess

Do you indeed?

Well, I cannot recall Maher using the word "murderer". I cannot recall him finding any problem with their attack. He only defended them. Considering that the fires in NYC were still burning at the time - perhaps you might find that just slightly questionable? Even considering how much you agree with, defend and support Maher - do you think that just perhaps his choice of words was - let us say - unfortunate?

And as for the truth - well, we are not in agreement on that. Maher says they are NOT cowards. He uses examples of Americans to portray the contrast. It is the American who are the cowards - it is the terrosists who are brave and courageous, accordong to Maher.

You have indicated your agreement with his "truthful" words. The opposite of cowardly is brave. Therefore Maher believes that they are brave. He defended them passionately. It was a disgusting display. Not for you, obviously, as you disagree with my view of the terrorists' behavior - and agree with his. I will stick to my view.

This is very basic logic - not difficult to figure out.

__________________
My good blade carves the casques of men,
My tough lance thrusteth sure,
My strength is as the strength of ten,
Because my heart is pure.

"Sir Galahad," by Alfred, Lord Tennyson (1834)

*chuckle*

Well, your strong defense of Maher and your friends here on the forum is touching. For an answer to your question, please see post directly above.

__________________
My good blade carves the casques of men,
My tough lance thrusteth sure,
My strength is as the strength of ten,
Because my heart is pure.

"Sir Galahad," by Alfred, Lord Tennyson (1834)

Interesting - you believe they need to be "understood" because of their "desperation". Extraordinary. There is no moral or ethical frame of reference here. Many people are desperate and despairing and do not spend years planning the cold-blooded murder of thousands.

I would say their acts were evil. Perhaps that is why we are disagreeing about this.

__________________
My good blade carves the casques of men,
My tough lance thrusteth sure,
My strength is as the strength of ten,
Because my heart is pure.

"Sir Galahad," by Alfred, Lord Tennyson (1834)

Ah! So you commiserate with this observation. You believe "despair" and "desperation" caused this.

Now I understand the enormous gulf between us on this subject and why you are defending Maher's disgraceful comments with such intensity.

__________________
My good blade carves the casques of men,
My tough lance thrusteth sure,
My strength is as the strength of ten,
Because my heart is pure.

"Sir Galahad," by Alfred, Lord Tennyson (1834)

If you haven't heard him say bad things about them then you obviously do not watch much of his show because I have heard him say such things many times.

The opposite of cowardly is brave but a lack of cowardice does not mean they are brave. I don't think I am cowardly but then again I haven't done anything particularly brave lately either. I would say I'm neither actually. You make assumptions and take leaps that Bill hasn't himself in his own statements because you are angry.

I actually think religion caused it to tell you the truth.

Suicide is a desperate act of despair.

__________________


Question those who think themselves above questioning.

Bill Maher, on his first show after 9/11, wasn't gushing about the bravery of the terrorists. He was talking about how people the entire week were using the word "cowardly". It pissed him off that people were just all in line saying that terrorists were "cowardly", so he made the point that "lobbing missiles into a country from thousands of miles away" was more cowardly than actually hijacking a plane and using it as a missile. Of course the attacks were evil, he said, but don't use the misuse the word "cowardly".

I don't understand these hecklers. Why is Bill Maher the guy you have to pick on? He's said he doesn't believe the conspiracy stories, so why do you think these people think they're going to get some kind of justice on his show?

And when you decide to be an audience member for a show where your role is to listen, it is just of Maher to kick the hecklers out, as he did.

I think a case should be made about the collapse of WTC 7, put information and science together on it, but don't try to get justice on a comedy show, it just makes you look like a conspiracy nut.