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DNC honors/sponsors sadomasochism group.

By Jeff Johnson -
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2/7/2008

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- The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force is holding its annual "Creating Change" conference in Detroit this week. Its sponsors claim to have trained more than 30,000 activists since 1988.
"It's essentially a grassroots training conference for homosexual, bisexual, transgender -- and now, it turns out -- sadomasochistic activists."
The event's handbook even addresses "transgender restroom etiquette.""It says that, 'Each of us can decide for ourselves in which bathroom we belong,'"

Source: DNC sponsors event honoring sadomasochism (OneNewsNow.com)

Commentary: Hey, does that mean guys can put on a pair of heels and hang in women’s restrooms???
I mean, don’t chicks have a say in this?
Democrats are running on a change platform, makes one wonder what kind of change they have in mind.
<strike>Disgust</strike>, discuss;
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Re: DNC honors/sponsors sadomasochism group.

Which bathroom would you prefer they use?
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Re: DNC honors/sponsors sadomasochism group.

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Re: DNC honors/sponsors sadomasochism group.

It's the DNC???
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Re: DNC honors/sponsors sadomasochism group.

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Which bathroom would you prefer they use?
Who would know? Since there are no urinals in the ladies room, this "woman" would just use the stall. Just no foot-tapping under the divider. That's a non-issue, really.

The REAL issue is why the DNC chooses to associate with such a politically INcorrect group.
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Re: DNC honors/sponsors sadomasochism group.

This is the mission statement of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force:

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Mission of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force Foundation
The mission of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force is to build the grassroots power of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community. We do this by training activists, equipping state and local organizations with the skills needed to organize broad-based campaigns to defeat anti-LGBT referenda and advance pro-LGBT legislation, and building the organizational capacity of our movement. Our Policy Institute, the movement’s premier think tank, provides research and policy analysis to support the struggle for complete equality and to counter right-wing lies. As part of a broader social justice movement, we work to create a nation that respects the diversity of human expression and identity and creates opportunity for all.

Mission of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, Inc.
The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, Inc. (NGLTF, Inc.), founded in 1973 and incorporated in 1974, works to build the grassroots political power of the LGBT community to win complete equality. We do this through direct and grassroots lobbying to defeat anti-LGBT ballot initiatives and legislation and pass pro-LGBT legislation and other measures. We also analyze and report on the positions of candidates for public office on issues of importance to the LGBT community. NGLTF, Inc., is a 501(c)(4) nonprofit corporation incorporated in New York. Contributions to NGLTF, Inc., are not tax-deductible.
I certainly may be missing something, but I don't really see what the problem is. I understand that many people feel threatened by homosexuals and transgender individuals, but I'm not really sure what is wrong with the DNC sponsoring an event promoted by a group determined to win "complete equality."

Personally, I think sadomasochism is pretty weird, but who am I to question the sexual practices of consenting adults? It's not like straight people don't practice sadomasochism.
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Which bathroom would you prefer they use?
The democrats or the sadomasochist???
They’re being sponsored by the DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE during election primaries for goodness sakes (I thought they were hard up for cash?).

How in the hell can the DNC associate themselves to this and get away with it: FOXNews.com - Sadomasochism Bondage Death in Massachusetts Raises Legal Questions - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

The DNC is the whole flipping party. Why aren’t dempelcrates running to disassociate themselves from the democratic party??
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Re: DNC honors/sponsors sadomasochism group.

sometimes the lauable goal of-
works to build the grassroots political power of the LGBT community to win complete equality

results in an inequality, the vying for some specialized recognition regards a particular viewpoint, special protections etc..in affect, to coin Orwell; some pigs are more equal than others....debilitating diversity by just creating a mechanism that sppt.s more of it...
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sometimes the lauable goal of-
works to build the grassroots political power of the LGBT community to win complete equality

results in an inequality, the vying for some specialized recognition regards a particular viewpoint, special protections etc..in affect, to coin Orwell; some pigs are more equal than others....debilitating diversity by just creating a mechanism that sppt.s more of it...
It’s just not the integrity disregard of the D.N.C.. It’s them being in power without the ability to recognize that when the homo dyke task force added sadomasochism, they didn’t have the decision making ability to disassociate themselves. They did the same shit with move-on dot dumb-asses when they attacked General Betraius.
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Re: DNC honors/sponsors sadomasochism group.

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It’s just not the integrity disregard of the D.N.C.. It’s them being in power without the ability to recognize that when the homo dyke task force added sadomasochism, they didn’t have the decision making ability to disassociate themselves. They did the same shit with move-on dot dumb-asses when they attacked General Betraius.
Maybe the DNC just thinks people's sexual preferences should be respected as long as they are conducted by consenting adults?

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Re: DNC honors/sponsors sadomasochism group.

Asa far as I know, Gays are not legally all that unequal as it is. Neither are sex changes, cross-dressing, bondage and all that stuff. But if you leave for vacation as Joseph and return as Josephine, and your boss fires you because of it, that's your boss's business and none of the government's.

If they want more SOCIAL acceptance, legislation is not the way to go, and the DNC should stay out of it.
I know there are a lot of Democrats who used to be disgruntled Republicans. I wonder if this will cause party affiliation shifting in the other directions.
There ARE a lot of Democrats who could be called conservative.
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Asa far as I know, Gays are not legally all that unequal as it is. Neither are sex changes, cross-dressing, bondage and all that stuff. But if you leave for vacation as Joseph and return as Josephine, and your boss fires you because of it, that's your boss's business and none of the government's.

If they want more SOCIAL acceptance, legislation is not the way to go, and the DNC should stay out of it.
I know there are a lot of Democrats who used to be disgruntled Republicans. I wonder if this will cause party affiliation shifting in the other directions.
There ARE a lot of Democrats who could be called conservative.
I think they'd rather have legislative acceptance than social acceptance. If a man leaves for vacation as Joseph, and returns from vacation as Josephine, they want legislative protection that deters their boss from firing them. If their boss chooses to disagree with their lifestyle, then that is his business and not the government's. It is a promotion of legislative equality, based on, what they believe to be, their right to their choice of sexuality.

100 years ago, if a white woman left on vacation as a single woman, then came back from vacation married to a black man, would it be justified for the woman's boss to fire her? At the time, many people may have said, "It's the boss's business, not the government's." People fought for legislation to protect them from such injustices and these rights are now protected by the law. I think that is what many gays, lesbians and transgenders are trying to do now.
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I think they'd rather have legislative acceptance than social acceptance. If a man leaves for vacation as Joseph, and returns from vacation as Josephine, they want legislative protection that deters their boss from firing them. If their boss chooses to disagree with their lifestyle, then that is his business and not the government's. It is a promotion of legislative equality, based on, what they believe to be, their right to their choice of sexuality.

100 years ago, if a white woman left on vacation as a single woman, then came back from vacation married to a black man, would it be justified for the woman's boss to fire her? At the time, many people may have said, "It's the boss's business, not the government's." People fought for legislation to protect them from such injustices and these rights are now protected by the law. I think that is what many gays, lesbians and transgenders are trying to do now.
Precisly-unless his 'change' makes a big diffrence to how he works he should bot be fired.

I fail to see the problem with the DNC sponsoring this event. What someone wants to do in there bed is no buisness of mine.
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Re: DNC honors/sponsors sadomasochism group.

I think people are over looking a significant issue. Why is sadomasochism part of it? Sadomasochists aren't a social group that needs protection. As I understand it, they're not a social group, and they kind of like the abuse anyway.

Were I an employer and one of my employees let me no he/she was a sadomasochist I'd fire the person in a heart beat. Not for being a sadomasochist but for telling me more about their sex life than "this is my boyfriend, girlfriend, etc."
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Re: DNC honors/sponsors sadomasochism group.

Thanks, sorry about the sloppy commentary. The thread is about the DNC associating themselves and giving donations to a sadomasochism activist group, not homo rights.
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