Woopie Goldberg says blacks can use it any time they want, but whites can't. Is she right? YouTube - Hasselbeck Breaks Down On The View

She says because her mother was discriminated against that gives her the right to use it any time she feels like.

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It's hard to stay mad at someone who makes you laugh - Jay Leno

My personal choice - don't use it, as I don't wish to offend.

My personal preference - don't use it in my presence. It makes me cringe regardless of what race the person using it is.

My take - I don't use it out of consideration for others. I hope for the same consideration from others when speaking around me.

What others say to each other outside of my presence, doesn't matter all that much to me.

I saw the clip from "The View" where Whoopi Goldberg had that twit Hasslebeck in tears over it. While I believe blacks should be able to use the word whenever they want, I would also expect them to show some common courtesy toward whites who, like Si Modo, are offended by it no matter WHO uses it. Unfortunately, I don't see that courtesy when the word comes up on these idiotic talk shows.

In fact, speaking of offensive, I PERSONALLY found it offensive when Goldberg said "We TOOK the word away from you..."
Nobody, but NOBODY ever took a word away from me. I CHOOSE not to use the word out of respect toward those who feel insulted by it as well as whites who are uncomfortable hearing it.
As there is no actual LAW prohibiting me from saying the word "nigger", it cannot be "taken" from me. Whites who don't use it do it out of kindness to others, period. And I don't care to hear how I was somehow forced not to use it.

It's not exactly a shining example of the two races working toward true brotherhood, IMO. But it's a minor point these days anyway, and the issue seems to be mainly propagated by "activists" like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson (who seems to have no problem using it as an epithet himself) and the media.

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Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.

What Whoopie is saying is this: We want to be different from you. We want to seperate ourselves from you. We want to live in a different world then you.
YouTube - Whoopi Goldberg vs. Dumb White Woman Over the Word Nigger

Whatever happened to the calls for unity and peace?

Forget them because this is what many blacks want. They want to be able to say things that we can't.

I don't think that the word should be banned, but I also don't think that blacks have the right to say that we can't use it. YouTube - Whoopi Goldberg 'Bat' Joke

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It's hard to stay mad at someone who makes you laugh - Jay Leno

But, but...she's a reality TV star!

(I recently found that out...WTH? )

well, among Italians calling someone a wop or a guinea is all about context........non Italians call me that and depending on their tone, if its meant as an insult I would be as sensitive as anyone to a slur based on ethnicity or creed nationality etc....but here, blacks say hey me and me only because in effect, when a guy calls you a wop in a friendly manner that’s fine but if a white guy calls him a niggar in a friendly jocular tone that’s a slight despite the tone or context. I guess you could say that’s their choice but in the end I see it as uneducated and uncouth.

But society has a hand in this.

Lets suppose; if someone called me a wop in a hostile tone how worked up do you think folks would get if I complained?
Now what if I called a black man a niggar even in a friendly tone with no intent to harm and he complained? I think we all know what would happen. There fore they have with societies allowance created a code they and they alone can use regards a verbal “abuse”.
That is the problem with according yourself or others or allowing others to accrue specialty unto themselves. They in effect get use that as a hammer whichever way they want, while we have been trained to just pass on “wop” or “Mick” or “wasp” ...etc.

As Orwell alluded some pigs are more equal than others, and this is just another example of white guilt, the message should be ANY sue of such is wrong end of story.

Oh and something else I just noticed, dig this; if you type in a word document the word term- wop and click definition here’s what you get-
“a highly offensive term for an Italian person”.
Type in wasp and right click for a definition- see what you get- an offensive term for a white person who has a protestant etc etc..
If you type niggar- right click for a definition, you get nothing. Add to that word does not recognize the spelling of niggar .....but of wop. Check out -Mick as well....who can tell me why?

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"The captain has turned off the `No Dubbing' sign. You are free to speak any language you choose."

She is, in my mind, the worst thing to happen to conservatives in a long time. It seems she can't hold an argument in her position as the shows token right winger and pretty much ANY left winger winger on this forum could have her sobbing in five minutes.

I get this mostly from my Wife, who watches it and is pretty politically savvy herself. Thankfully, I work days.

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Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.

Most people are offended by certain speech. I don't swear in front of kids or women. I don't speak about my salary or net worth in public. I don't describe my physical ailments except with a doctor. But does that mean I never discuss these, ever? No! When I'm on the job and someone needs to know I'm serious, I'll use a few choice expletives. When I need a loan or when I'm discussing my retirement, I'll discuss my financial status. And, if my hemorrhoids need attention, I'll say so to my doctor.

My point is, certain subjects and specific words are not appropriate at certain times or in certain social situations. But that doesn't mean I support the PC Nazis to police our conversations. If the gays can draw the line at their bedroom door, I feel I can draw the line at my private conversations.

RJ

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I was wondering who she actually was when I would see clips of that show. I had never heard of her before this. I googled her and found out the reality thing. Token conservative, indeed. I know there are other girly-girls out there who are also conservative. It speaks volumes about what that show's cast thinks of their abilities to hold their own with the opposition. All they think they can handle is a reality TV "star", I guess.

Actually, the common spelling is niggEr, but if you plug in "define niggar" into Google it seems to recognize the misspelling and goes to pages on the former.

But niggARD is a synonym for stingy or selfish, FYI. But even that seems to inexplicably raise racial issues too.

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yes it does, niggardly being a code word now thx to the NYC school board I believe as to a teachers use of such and the complaint which they stupidly gave weight too which leads to exactly to my point.

And my point with the colloquial spelling of nigger was exactly that, it was not coded in the Word dictionary....but wop mick and wasp is......thats how low we have sunk, or I should say allowed ourselves to be railroaded.

And of course we have the “old white” guy which I have seen here and on tv and in print as reference to mccain, if I made a comment in my co. cafeteria as to that “young black guy” gasps and silence would reign....

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"The captain has turned off the `No Dubbing' sign. You are free to speak any language you choose."

It's hard for one average American to argue with 3 or 4 Liberals.

Those are odds that anyone would lose, even if you had valid points.

All they have to do is gang up on you and shout you down, which is what happens.

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That was just pathetic with Whoopi, who the fuck does that woman think she is? (I was tempted to say who does that nigga think she is?)

Whoopi has no right to lecture folks on what they can and cannot say and has no ability to regulate what folks other than her skin color say:

So in that spirit:

Nigga! Nigger! Nigger nigger nigger!!! Niiiiggggggggggeeerrrrrr!

I think what Whoopi meant by 'take it away' was that 'nigger' was used as a flamethowing putdown by whites against blacks and they took it away by turning its painful usage into a term of endearment within the black community. As the target of it, they took it and reinvented it to take the sting away or at least dampen it every time they hear a white person call them niggers where it has only one well known pejorative meaning.

As for me, I know what it means when a white man says it about or to blacks and I know what it means when a black person says it to another.

In a matter of right or wrong, it's wrong for a white person to use it to describe a black person. I think that's not reasonably debatable as for public acceptance anymore.

As for blacks using it within their own community as a term of endearment and other familiar contexts, to me that's just not my affair and I don't care and don't really know why whites do, except for looking for another reason to bitch about something. Whites put out the trash on that word and that's all that can be asked and expected. But, it's self evident with this word within the black community that some follow the old saw that one person's trash is another person's treasure. Certainly plenty of blacks find no treasure in it even between blacks but now at least it's a black issue for better or worse and for blacks to resolve.

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Anyone else find this kinda funny?:

Whoopie said: "My mother could not go and vote in the united states of america, the place of her birth."

Now if Elizibeth actually knew what she was talking about, she could have responded with the fact that her mother (or grandmother) couldn't vote in the country of her birth either. The 15th amendment, the one that gave blacks the right to vote, was ratified in 1870 - Whoopie is old, but not that old. The 19th amendment, womens sufferage, wasn't ratified until 1920, thus the reason Whoopies mother couldn't vote prior to that time.

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